a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Y antes de que nadie se escandalice: la única y verdadera Palabra de Dios es Jesucristo. La Escritura contiene la Palabra de Dios, en cuanto da testimonio de aquel que es la Palabra. Por eso los católicos no nos cansamos de corregir a nuestros hermanos separados que insisten en hacer del cristianismo una "religión del libro", al modo del judaísmo o el islam, cuando no es así.

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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Usted se contradice , la Biblia es la Palabra de Dios y es verdad y no discuto que Jesucristo fuera la Palabra de Dios encarnada pero Dios nos habló antes por sus santos profetas y ahora con sus cinco ministerios muy diferentes al presbiterio católico que es sin Espíritu Santo .
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[FONT=&quot]habló Dios por boca de sus santos profetas que han sido desde tiempo antiguo[/FONT]</m:defjc></m:rmargin></m:lmargin></m:dispdef></m:smallfrac>
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Sí, sí. Pero la Palabra de Dios es Cristo. Antes aún de que existiera la Escritura. Antes aún de que Dios si quiera pensase en crear el mundo, ya existía la Palabra de Dios, que es Cristo.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Sí, sí. Pero la Palabra de Dios es Cristo. Antes aún de que existiera la Escritura. Antes aún de que Dios si quiera pensase en crear el mundo, ya existía la Palabra de Dios, que es Cristo.

Sí, eso es verdad. Pero la Palabra de Dios es un libro escrito por Dios mismo mediante su inspiración. Es una obra de Dios mismo, y merece todo el respeto y veneración.

Es importante confirmarlo, la biblia es Palabra de Dios, con mayúscula, en cuanto su autor es Dios mismo.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Sí, la Biblia es Palabra de Dios, porque su autor es Dios mismo. Pero la Palabra de Dios en sí misma no tiene autor.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Sí, la Biblia es Palabra de Dios, porque su autor es Dios mismo. Pero la Palabra de Dios en sí misma no tiene autor.

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font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> El autor de la Palabra de Dios es Dios y es un Espíritu , Padre de todos , el cual es sobre todos, y por todos, y en todos.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Pero en un sentido distinto e inferior a Cristo. El cristianismo no es una religión del libro.

A este hombre ¿qué le pasa?

¿Hubiese sabido usted sobre Cristo y lo que el dijo sin su Palabra?

Eso sí, con usted no hay nada que argumentar, mis únicos argumentos son bíblicos, si para usted eso no es una autoridad, no puedo desperdiciar mi tiempo...
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

¿Hubiese sabido usted sobre Cristo y lo que el dijo sin su Palabra?

Jajajaja. La Palabra es Cristo. La fe viene del oído, no de unos cuantos versículos mal interpretados por no entender el pretérito paulino.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Jajajaja. La Palabra es Cristo. La fe viene del oído, no de unos cuantos versículos mal interpretados por no entender el pretérito paulino.

Y eso llevo diciendole desde que comenzo este epigrafe y otro... pero segun el la Fe nace de leer la Biblia, cuando le demostre que no es asi, se hizo pato y se fue a otros temas. A ver si tienes suerte, porque vieras que es muy ciego y desconoce la Fe verdadera que nace del oir la predicacion de la Palabra de Dios y no de leer la Escritura.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Y eso llevo diciendole desde que comenzo este epigrafe y otro... pero segun el la Fe nace de leer la Biblia, cuando le demostre que no es asi, se hizo pato y se fue a otros temas. A ver si tienes suerte, porque vieras que es muy ciego y desconoce la Fe verdadera que nace del oir la predicacion de la Palabra de Dios y no de leer la Escritura.

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font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Especialmente cuando los curas hablan la Palabra de Dios en Latín pero los sermones son en el idioma que se habla por lo tanto los fieles no interpretan la palabra de Dios sino que ya fue cocinada y perdió todas las vitaminas y es un ALIMENTO INSULSO.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Caro, no he oído una misa en latín en mi vida (y mira que me gustaría, pero no hay manera de que nos dejen...) y ahora va este y me descubre la tierra prometida.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Caro, no he oído una misa en latín en mi vida (y mira que me gustaría, pero no hay manera de que nos dejen...) y ahora va este y me descubre la tierra prometida.

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O lo hacen en Latín o repiten un mismo párrafo misa tras misa y el sermón es un interpretación de la palabra de Dios , cuándo tienen suerte porque les gusta hacer política y utilizan el sermón para ello.

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Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

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O lo hacen en Latín o repiten un mismo párrafo misa tras misa y el sermón es un interpretación de la palabra de Dios , cuándo tienen suerte porque les gusta hacer política y utilizan el sermón para ello.

<o:p> </o:p>


Rey, estos hoimbres no creen en la Biblia, para que te molestas en argumentos que a ellos no le interesan?, ellos son inconversos y como tales hay que predicarles.

Comienza con Juan 3:16, que ellos no lo conocen.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

¿Ah si? ¿Entonces los Obispos y Diaconos no eran Salvos verdad? Digo, ahi los separa. ¿Porque?


Vale, pues camos a los Efesios:

Efesios 1

Carta a los Efesios


<SUP id=es-NVI-29162 class=versenum>1</SUP> Pablo, apóstol de *Cristo Jesús por la voluntad de Dios,


a los *santos y fieles<SUP class=footnote value='[a]'>[a]</SUP> en Cristo Jesús que están en Éfeso:<SUP class=footnote value='[b]'>[b]</SUP> <SUP id=es-NVI-29163 class=versenum>2</SUP> Que Dios nuestro Padre y el Señor Jesucristo les concedan gracia y paz.

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Aquí no menciona obispos y diáconos, Kal, a ver con qué vas a salir ahora, es lo malo de no querer nada con la Biblia, siempre algo dirán.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

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font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Especialmente cuando los curas hablan la Palabra de Dios en Latín pero los sermones son en el idioma que se habla por lo tanto los fieles no interpretan la palabra de Dios sino que ya fue cocinada y perdió todas las vitaminas y es un ALIMENTO INSULSO.

JAJAJAJA ¿Misa en Latin? ¿Pues que te quedaste en 1950? Jajajaja... que cosas.
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

1 Pedro 1

Primera Carta de

Pedro


<SUP id=es-NVI-30328 class=versenum>1</SUP> Pedro, apóstol de *Jesucristo,


a los elegidos, extranjeros dispersos por el Ponto, Galacia, Capadocia, *Asia y Bitinia,<SUP id=es-NVI-30329 class=versenum>2</SUP> según la previsión<SUP class=footnote value='[a]'>[a]</SUP> de Dios el Padre, mediante la obra *santificadora del Espíritu, para obedecer a Jesucristo y ser redimidos<SUP class=footnote value='[b]'>[b]</SUP> por su sangre:
Que abunden en ustedes la gracia y la paz.


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2 Corintios 1

Segunda Carta a los

Corintios


<SUP id=es-NVI-28756 class=versenum>1</SUP> Pablo, apóstol de *Cristo Jesús por la voluntad de Dios, y Timoteo nuestro hermano,

a la iglesia de Dios que está en Corinto y a todos los *santos en toda la región de Acaya
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Vale, pues camos a los Efesios:

Efesios 1

Carta a los Efesios


<SUP id=es-NVI-29162 class=versenum>1</SUP> Pablo, apóstol de *Cristo Jesús por la voluntad de Dios,


a los *santos y fieles<SUP class=footnote value='[a]'>[a]</SUP> en Cristo Jesús que están en Éfeso:<SUP class=footnote value='[b]'>[b]</SUP> <SUP id=es-NVI-29163 class=versenum>2</SUP> Que Dios nuestro Padre y el Señor Jesucristo les concedan gracia y paz.

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Aquí no menciona obispos y diáconos, Kal, a ver con qué vas a salir ahora, es lo malo de no querer nada con la Biblia, siempre algo dirán.

¿Y quien habla de los Efesios? Claramente dijiste FILIPENSES. ¿No me crees? Ahi ta tu aportacion:
Amigo, Pablo le habla a los filipenses que ya eran salvos.

¿Ves como eres mentiroso y convenenciero?
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Spurgeon, ni sabes qué es la gracia, ni tienes gracia. No tienes argumentos, solo tres versículos que repites una y otra vez. Como buen anticristo, te crees tus propios engaños...
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

Más Kal_El, a ver qué dice usted:

1 Corintios 1

Primera Carta a los

Corintios


<SUP id=es-NVI-28319 class=versenum>1</SUP> Pablo, llamado por la voluntad de Dios a ser apóstol de *Cristo Jesús, y nuestro hermano Sóstenes,
<SUP id=es-NVI-28320 class=versenum>2</SUP> a la iglesia de Dios que está en Corinto, a los que han sido *santificados en Cristo Jesús y llamados a ser su santo pueblo,
 
Re: a todos los catolicos romanos respondan esta pregunta,,,

¿Ves como eres mentiroso y convenenciero?
Y miedoso también... nmo se atrevió a responderme tres sencillitas preguntas.... como "ya es salvo" se cree mucho.