Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Y que tiene que verrrr que haya protestado contra Dios si no se hizo catolico romano?? cual era tu punto al mencionar que Pablo protesto contra Dios? que ni siquiera va con el tema!, Pablo mismo no tiene la fe que tú tienes? Pablo no tenia una fe dividida: fe en san Moises, fe en santa Maria, fe en san Esteban, fe en san Isaias, fe en Juan el bautista, fe en Abraham, fe en el rosario, fe en el escapulario que lo salvaría del fuego eterno.
Pablo tuvo su fe puesta en Jesucristo, su fe puesta en Dios.
Pedro nego 3 veces al Señor y por eso lo vamos a tachar de cobarde siempre?

Por cierto ni el apostol Pedro se hizo catolico romano!
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Los apóstoles hicieron presbíteros y obispos por todas partes, Roma una más.
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Ikari

El obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo porque simplemente Pablo no fue obispo de Roma.

y Pedro si.

entonces quien es el obispo de Jerusalen?

Un patriarca que es sucesor de Pablo es Gregorio III Laham, patriarca de la Iglesia católica greco-melkita (la tradición dice que esa sede fue fundada por san Pablo), también tenemos que el Patriarca Ecuménico de Constantinopla, Bartolome I es sucesor de San Andres (hermano de Pedro).

gracias por la informacion.
por preguntar...porque Gregorio III no es el obispo de Roma?
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Porque en Occidente la comunidad Judia mas antigua es la de Roma.

ah...

disculpame kal, pero creo que eso es como estar "tirando flechas".
no se que tiene que ver que roma fuese la comunidad mas antigua de occidente.

eso es como si me dijeras que hay que predicarles a los gringos, y yo me fuese a guantanamo porque es el sitio no gringo con mas gringos...o algo asi...jejeje
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

fue o no fue (tiempo pasado)

protestante pablo?
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Si la cuestion es de tal manera

Hechos 16

3 Pablo circunda a Timoteo


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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Eso ya se ha explicado en repetidas ocasiones; pero me alegra cada vez que alguien lo trae al tapete, para machacar sobre el asunto. El libro de los hechos de los apóstoles no es un documento doctrinal, es decir, no se puede sacar dogmas de él, pues sencillamente el documento es un relato de las cosas que dijeron e hicieron varios de los apóstoles, y creyentes, en unos días donde la doctrina del NT aun no estaba completa; solo se conocía lo rudimentario de la doctrina sobre Cristo. Por esto vernos a los apóstoles, hablando fuera de la doctrina del NT y haciendo cosas fuera de esa doctrina. [/FONT]

La razón principal por la cual la iglesia no ha llegado aún a la unidad de la fe, es porque no todos han aceptado que deben sentarse en la cátedra de Pablo, el Ministro de Cristo a los gentiles, el hombre que dispensó la doctrina del NT.


En los días de Jesús hombre, existían en el pueblo diferentes corrientes de interpretaciones; pero todos tenían la ley como la cátedra a impartir; Jesús dijo:<sup> 2</sup> En la cátedra de Moisés se sientan los escribas y los fariseos.<sup> 3</sup>Así que, todo lo que os digan que guardéis, guardadlo y hacedlo. La cátedra a impartir en la iglesia, es la cátedra del apóstol Pablo, hasta que todos en la iglesia tomen conciencia de esto, no habrá unidad de la fe.
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Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?


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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Eso ya se ha explicado en repetidas ocasiones; pero me alegra cada vez que alguien lo trae al tapete, para machacar sobre el asunto. El libro de los hechos de los apóstoles no es un documento doctrinal, es decir, no se puede sacar dogmas de él, pues sencillamente el documento es un relato de las cosas que dijeron e hicieron varios de los apóstoles, y creyentes, en unos días donde la doctrina del NT aun no estaba completa; solo se conocía lo rudimentario de la doctrina sobre Cristo. Por esto vernos a los apóstoles, hablando fuera de la doctrina del NT y haciendo cosas fuera de esa doctrina. [/FONT]

La razón principal por la cual la iglesia no ha llegado aún a la unidad de la fe, es porque no todos han aceptado que deben sentarse en la cátedra de Pablo, el Ministro de Cristo a los gentiles, el hombre que dispensó la doctrina del NT.


En los días de Jesús hombre, existían en el pueblo diferentes corrientes de interpretaciones; pero todos tenían la ley como la cátedra a impartir; Jesús dijo:<sup> 2</sup> En la cátedra de Moisés se sientan los escribas y los fariseos.<sup> 3</sup>Así que, todo lo que os digan que guardéis, guardadlo y hacedlo. La cátedra a impartir en la iglesia, es la cátedra del apóstol Pablo, hasta que todos en la iglesia tomen conciencia de esto, no habrá unidad de la fe.
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Vamos a borrar esto tambien de la biblia, el libro de Hechos, te repito, a este paso nos dejas sin biblia

Eso tiene un gran significado, fue expresado pro mi por lo simplista de los argumentos que ofrecen para plantear que Pablo no estaba sujeto a Pedro, porque uno era mandado a los gentiles y el otro a la circuncision, como si ambos apostoles estuvieran alejados de la Verdad.
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

El obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo porque simplemente Pablo no fue obispo de Roma. Un patriarca que es sucesor de Pablo es Gregorio III Laham, patriarca de la Iglesia católica greco-melkita (la tradición dice que esa sede fue fundada por san Pablo), también tenemos que el Patriarca Ecuménico de Constantinopla, Bartolome I es sucesor de San Andres (hermano de Pedro).

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Gregorios III, Patriarca Greco - Melkita Católico

La tumba de San Pablo también se encuentra en Roma, lugar de su martirio, en la actual basilica de San Pablo Extramuros.

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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]¿Pedro obispo de Roma? ¡Por favor!, si Pedro no llegó a ser ni cura en Jerusalén. En esa ciudad Pedro era una más de las columnas:[/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot] 9[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]y reconociendo la gracia que me había sido dada, Jacobo, Cefas y Juan, que eran considerados como columnas, nos dieron a mí y a Bernabé la diestra en señal de compañerismo, para que nosotros fuésemos a los gentiles, y ellos a la circuncisión.[/FONT] Gal.

No solo de imágenes, leyendas, y cuentos chinos vivirá el hombre....[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

y Pedro si.

entonces quien es el obispo de Jerusalen?

El obispo de Jerusalén y sucesor de Santiago el menor es el patriarca ortodoxo su Beatitud Teófilo III, en la foto se ve con SS Benedicto XVI durante la visita de este último a Tierra Santa.

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MAS INFORMACIÓN SOBRE EL PATRIARCA tEÓFILO iii EN http://www.jerusalem-patriarchate.info/en/patria_welc.htm

gracias por la informacion.
por preguntar...porque Gregorio III no es el obispo de Roma?
Porque no ha sido nombrado como tal. Es patriarca de la Iglesia Greco-Católica Melquita. Es una Iglesia de rito ortodoxo (específicamente el bizantino) que se encuentra en comunión con Roma.

También tenemos al Patriarca de Antioquia Su Beatitud Ignacio IV Hazim su sede fue fundada por Pedro y Pablo.
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?


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Accent 5"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 5"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Shading Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="63" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="64" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="66" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="19" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Emphasis"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="21" SemiHidden="false" 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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]¿Pedro obispo de Roma? ¡Por favor!, si Pedro no llegó a ser ni cura en Jerusalén. En esa ciudad Pedro era una más de las columnas:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
<sup>[FONT=&quot] 9[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]y reconociendo la gracia que me había sido dada, Jacobo, Cefas y Juan, que eran considerados como columnas, nos dieron a mí y a Bernabé la diestra en señal de compañerismo, para que nosotros fuésemos a los gentiles, y ellos a la circuncisión.[/FONT] Gal.

No solo de imágenes, leyendas, y cuentos chinos vivirá el hombre....[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

jajajaja siga mirando hacia los lados si quiere. Recuerde que por alguna razón le cambiaron el nombre de Simón a Pedro. ¿A que otros personajes biblicos se les cambio el nombre y porque?
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Cascabeliando;1110406]Vamos a borrar esto tambien de la biblia, el libro de Hechos, te repito, a este paso nos dejas sin biblia

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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]No tienes que borrar nada, solo tienes que discernir qué es material doctrinal y qué no es material doctrinal. El problema no está en la biblia, sino en nuestra comprensión de las cosas de Dios. ¿Tu realmente creer que el autor del libro de los hechos tuvo la intención de que su escrito fuera tomado como fuente de doctrinas? [/FONT]


Eso tiene un gran significado, fue expresado pro mi por lo simplista de los argumentos que ofrecen para plantear que Pablo no estaba sujeto a Pedro, porque uno era mandado a los gentiles y el otro a la circuncision, como si ambos apostoles estuvieran alejados de la Verdad.

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Priority="67" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="19" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Emphasis"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="21" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Emphasis"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="31" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Reference"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="32" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Reference"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="33" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Book Title"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="37" Name="Bibliography"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="39" QFormat="true" Name="TOC Heading"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0in; mso-para-margin-right:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]No entendí muy bien lo que quisiste decir, pero te digo que en el libro de los hechos no hay papa, están los apóstoles todos en el mismo nivel; estos coordinaban las actividades de los santos en los primeros días. Cuando Pablo fue introducido a los apostoles por Bernabe, no hay ningun indicio de alguien haciendo de papa todo poderoso. Leer (Hch.9: 26-31)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Más adelante Bernabé fue a buscar a Pablo a Tarso, y lo trajo a Antioquia, y se quedaron allí por un año con la iglesia de Antioquia (Hch. 11:25)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Pablo fue enviado por el Espíritu a su primer viaje misionero, estando en Antioquia, donde no había papa, ni obispos, ni la cabeza de un guanajo; lo que había en esa iglesia eran profetas y maestros; de manera que Pedro no tuvo nada que ver con el ministerio de Pablo. Leer Hch. 13:1-3.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Más adelante cuando comenzaron los judaizantes a invadir el territorio de Pablo y Bernabé, estos subieron a Jerusalén para tratar el asunto con los apóstoles de la circuncisión y los ancianos. Leer Hch.15 para que puedas comprobar que no existe ningún indicio de papado; Pedro no era el papa ni el máximo líder de los apóstoles, ni el vicario de Cristo en la tierra. Las cuestiones las trataban todos.[/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot]22[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Entonces pareció bien a los apóstoles y a los ancianos, con toda la iglesia, elegir de entre ellos varones y enviarlos a Antioquía con Pablo y Bernabé: a Judas que tenía por sobrenombre Barsabás, y a Silas, varones principales entre los hermanos;[/FONT] Hch.15

[FONT=&quot]¿Por dónde ves a Pedro como máxima autoridad de la iglesia de Jerusalén?, ¿Por donde ves a Pedro tenido como el vicario de Cristo en la tierra?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]¡No arruguen que no hay quien planche![/FONT]
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Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

jajajaja siga mirando hacia los lados si quiere. Recuerde que por alguna razón le cambiaron el nombre de Simón a Pedro. ¿A que otros personajes biblicos se les cambio el nombre y porque?

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mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]A Pedro le cambiaron el nombre pero no la carne, ni su carácter ni su personalidad. Pedro siguió siendo el mismo Pedro de siempre, emocional, impredecible, desobediente, y desordenado. Supuestamente lo mandaron a ir por todo el mundo, y no salió de Jerusalén; y los pocos metros que se alejo de Jerusalén, fue para judaizar a los gentiles. El apostolado de Pedro no trascendió, y fue poco fructífero en comparación con el apostolado de Pablo. Lindo personaje se buscaron para hacerlo primer papa. ¿Pedro vicario de Cristo en la tierra? ¡Por favor![/FONT]
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

fue o no fue pablo un protestante?

Habría que ver si Pablo creia en la sola scriptura, sola fide, sola gratia y tenía una biblia Reina Valera o una King James
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

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mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]A Pedro le cambiaron el nombre pero no la carne, ni su carácter ni su personalidad. Pedro siguió siendo el mismo Pedro de siempre, emocional, impredecible, desobediente, y desordenado. Supuestamente lo mandaron a ir por todo el mundo, y no salió de Jerusalén; y los pocos metros que se alejo de Jerusalén, fue para judaizar a los gentiles. El apostolado de Pedro no trascendió, y fue poco fructífero en comparación con el apostolado de Pablo. Lindo personaje se buscaron para hacerlo primer papa. ¿Pedro vicario de Cristo en la tierra? ¡Por favor![/FONT]

Cuando Dios ha cambiado el nombre a alguién ha sido por un motivo y Pedro no iba a ser la ecepción o es que pretende decir que a Jesús le gustaba poner sobrenombres para payasear.

¿porqué Pedro y no Juan o Pablo como cabeza de la Iglesia? ¿Porque Judas Iscariote y no Mateo como tesorero? ¿Porque un tartamudo para liberar a su pueblo de Egipto? ¿Porque eligió a unos cobardes (con traidor incluido) que lo abandonaron en el momento crítico como apóstoles? ¿porque vino como hijo de carpintero y no nació de una vez como rey? ¿porque en Nazareth si era una zona con mala fama? Hasta Natael preguntó ¿Acaso puede salir algo bueno de Nazaret?

Lo único que sabemos es que Dios no razona como nosotros
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Bendiciones en El Eterno

La iglesia Catolica Romana ha inventado que Pedro fue su fundador, y por lo tanto fue su primer Papa, ademas dicen que ahi estuvo 25 años ; muriendo con Pablo sobre el monte Tiber, en el año 67 d.C.; luego inventaron que finalmente pasó esta dignidad a su sucesor, con el privilegio de que el don de su infabiblidad se perpetuaría a través de los siglos.

El problema aqui es que si Pedro estuvo en Roma (que es cosa poco probable) NUNCA FUE SU FUNDADOR de esa Iglesia... y con ello se derrumba el castillo de naipes de la ICAR.

Paz de Cristo
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Bendiciones en El Eterno

La iglesia Catolica Romana ha inventado que Pedro fue su fundador, y por lo tanto fue su primer Papa, ademas dicen que ahi estuvo 25 años ; muriendo con Pablo sobre el monte Tiber, en el año 67 d.C.; luego inventaron que finalmente pasó esta dignidad a su sucesor, con el privilegio de que el don de su infabiblidad se perpetuaría a través de los siglos.

El problema aqui es que si Pedro estuvo en Roma (que es cosa poco probable) NUNCA FUE SU FUNDADOR de esa Iglesia... y con ello se derrumba el castillo de naipes de la ICAR.

Paz de Cristo

Seri interesante que nos mostrara donde la Iglesia enseña que Pedro es su fundador. El fundador es el mismo Cristo, es la Iglesia de Cristo no de Pedro. Pedro es el encargado de velar por la Iglesia hasta el regreso de Nuestro Señor.

La presencia de Pedro en Roma está respaldada por escritos de patristicos y la arquelogia. Entiendo que sea alérgico a la historia.
 
Re: Pregunta: Porqué el obispo de Roma no es sucesor de Pablo?

Protesto o no protesto contra Jesucristo y los cristianos?

En un primer momento Saulo era perseguidor de cristianos, luego tuvo lugar su conversión al cristianismo y su cambio de nombre a Pablo.