Re: Elena G. de White, mensajera del Señor
Advy dijo:
..o sea, tú crees en la inmortalidad del alma . . te felicito. Saludos a tu familiar fallecido, si me mencionó. Dentro de poco te meterás a espiritista.Bravo
Bueno "Advy"... Siento decirte que caiste y tendrás que juzgar a tu queridísima profetisa falsa con las mismas palabras que usaste para juzgarme.
Esto lo hice para demostrar tu forma tan distorcionada de razonar. Lee nuevamente lo que dije:
Ernesto dijo:
¿Sabes qué? No lo iba a mencionar pero en un sueño que vi, un familar (ya fallecido por cierto) mencionó nombres de gente que se ha mencionado en este foro y habló de cosas que se deben o no hacer...no puedo explicar más (y sé que suena raro) pero todo en su timpo...
Nota lo siguiente:
1. Dije que vi un sueño... no dije que tuve un sueño.
2. Dije "un familar"... no dije que tal familiar fuera mío.
3. Dije que mencionó nombres de gente que se ha mencionado en este foro... no dije que mencionó tu nombre.
Bueno... Mi plan era haber seguido hablando de este sueño para que te enterraras más y más en el "lodo Adventista" pero creo que de un solo escupiste sufiencente saliva para arriba y es hora que te caiga en la cara.
Considera lo que dijo tu profetisa falsa e hipócrita:
The Retirement Years, page 161, paragraph 1
Chapter Title: The Hour of Bereavement
Ellen Dreams of James Shortly After His Death A few days since, I was pleading with the Lord for light in regard to my duty. In the night I dreamed I was in the carriage, driving, sitting at the right hand. Father was in the carriage, seated at my left hand. He was very pale, but calm and composed. "Why Father," I exclaimed, "I am so happy to have you by my side once more! I have felt that half of me was gone. Father, I saw you die;
I saw you buried. Has the Lord pitied me and let you come back to me again, and we work together as we used to?
He looked very sad. He said, "The Lord knows what is best for you and for me. My work was very dear to me. We have made a mistake. We have responded to urgent invitations of our brethren to attend important meetings. We had not the heart to refuse. These meetings have worn us both more than we were aware. Our good brethren were gratified, but they did not realize that in these meetings we took upon us greater burdens than at our age we could safely carry. They will never know the result of this long-continued strain upon us. God would have had them bear the burdens we have carried for years. Our nervous energies have been continuously taxed, and then our brethren misjudging our motives and not realizing our burdens have weakened the action of the heart. I have made mistakes, the greatest of which was in allowing my sympathies for the people of God to lead me to take work upon me which others should have borne.
Now, Ellen, calls will be made as they have been, desiring you to attend important meetings, as has been the case in the past. But lay this matter before God and make no response to the most earnest invitations. Your life hangs as it were upon a thread. You must have quiet rest, freedom from all excitement and from all disagreeable cares. We might have done a great deal for years with our pens, on subjects the people need that we have had light upon and can present before them, which others do not have. Thus you can work when your strength returns, as it will, and you can do far more with your pen than with your voice. He looked at me appealingly and said, "You will not neglect these cautions, will you, Ellen? Our people will never know under what infirmities we have labored to serve them because our lives were interwoven with the progress of the work, but God knows it all. I regret that I have felt so deeply and labored unreasonably in emergencies, regardless of the laws of life and health. The Lord did not require us to carry so heavy burdens and many of our brethren so few. We ought to have gone to the Pacific Coast before, and devoted our time and energies to writing. Will you do this now? Will you, as your strength returns, take your pen and write out these things we have so long anticipated, and make haste slowly? There is important matter which the people need. Make this your first business. You will have to speak some to the people, but shun the responsibilities which have borne us down. "Well," said I, "James, you are always to stay with me now and we will work together." Said he, "I stayed in Battle Creek too long. I ought to have gone to California more than one year ago. But I wanted to help the work and institutions at Battle Creek. I have made a mistake. Your heart is tender. You will be inclined to make the same mistakes I have made. Your life can be of use to the cause of God. Oh, those precious subjects the Lord would have had me bring before the people, precious jewels of light! I awoke. But this dream seemed so real. Now you can see and understand why I feel no duty to go to Battle Creek for the purpose of shouldering the responsibilities in General Conference. I have no duty to stand in General Conference.
The Lord forbids me. That is enough. -- Letter 17, 1881."
No voy a traducir porque es mucho y sé que hablas inglés.
El artículo fue escrito por Elena White y habla de un sueño que tuvo donde su querido difunto esposo apareció y le dio un mensaje de Dios. Ella reconoció que estaba muerto y no dijo "apartate de mi satanás"... no... ella le dijo "¡Yo ví cuando te enterraron!" y después platicaron de su futuro (Elena White) y el muerto James le dijo que Dios no quería que ella trabajara tanto porque le iba a pasar lo mismo que a él. Al final, la profetisa falsa dice que no va a hacer el trabajo de la Conferencia General y por ende no irá a la Iglesia de 'Battle Creek'... y termina con las siguientes palabras: "Dios no me lo permite"... Eso es suficiente".
Tu profetisa falsa tiene razón: Eso es suficiente para ver su hipocresía de predicar una cosa y creer otra.
Asi que mi estimado "Advy" a menos que seas un hipócrita, debes dirigir tus palabras a Elena White puesto que fue ella quien tuvo el sueño.
"Advy" ahora le dice a su profetisa falsa:
Elena, tú crees en la inmortalidad del alma . . te felicito. Saludos a tu familiar fallecido (James White), si me mencionó. Dentro de poco te meterás a espiritista.Bravo
¡¡Bravo "Advy"!!! ¡Bravo!