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Salmos 82:6
Yo dije: Vosotros sois dioses, Y todos vosotros hijos del Altísimo;

Bueno, ya va siendo hora de que sepa la diferencia entre ser "dioses" en naturaleza, a ser "Dios" en posición.
No pueden haber dos Dioses por posición, porque eso es politeísmo. Sin embargo, como usted bien dice, pueden haber dioses nombrados por naturaleza.
¿No es hora de que entienda de que Jesús es solo un dios por naturaleza, pero no es el Único Dios, que ocupa la posición límite superior?

1Cor.15:27 Porque [Dios] “sujetó todas las cosas debajo de sus pies”. Mas cuando dice que ‘todas las cosas han sido sujetadas’, es evidente que esto es con la excepción de aquel que le sujetó todas las cosas. 28 Pero cuando todas las cosas le hayan sido sujetadas, entonces el Hijo mismo también se sujetará a Aquel que le sujetó todas las cosas, para que Dios sea todas las cosas para con todos.
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

La revelación indica que Hay Un Dios y Un Señor .... el cual es revelado por Jesucristo

1.- El Verbo y Dios
2.- El Padre y el Hijo
3.- Dios y el Mediador
4.- Dios y El Cordero

Esto es una dualidad modalista siempre ... UN DIOS y UN SEÑOR

Lo Invisible y lo visible

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Querido hermano :


pero mezclas deidad con representación o manifestación


Dios deidad es el Espíritu


Manifestación o representación de Dios, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo


y aunque la trinidad parece mal llamada por el origen de la palabra el enunciado dice


Distinción de tres personas divinas en una sola y única esencia



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Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Bueno, ya va siendo hora de que sepa la diferencia entre ser "dioses" en naturaleza, a ser "Dios" en posición.
No pueden haber dos Dioses por posición, porque eso es politeísmo. Sin embargo, como usted bien dice, pueden haber dioses nombrados por naturaleza.
¿No es hora de que entienda de que Jesús es solo un dios por naturaleza, pero no es el Único Dios, que ocupa la posición límite superior?

1Cor.15:27 Porque [Dios] “sujetó todas las cosas debajo de sus pies”. Mas cuando dice que ‘todas las cosas han sido sujetadas’, es evidente que esto es con la excepción de aquel que le sujetó todas las cosas. 28 Pero cuando todas las cosas le hayan sido sujetadas, entonces el Hijo mismo también se sujetará a Aquel que le sujetó todas las cosas, para que Dios sea todas las cosas para con todos.


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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Querido hermano :

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Querido hermano :

Su filosofía humana es aplastada por lo que dijo Jesús ; a la Escritura no se puede violar


*Somos dioses*


De un solo Padre , Un solo Dios. Un solo Espíritu .
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

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5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Querido hermano :


Salmos 82:1

[ Amonestación contra los juicios injustos ] [ Salmo de Asaf. ]


Dios está en la reunión de los dioses; En medio de los dioses juzga.


No es una escritura suelta .
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Queridos hermanos[FONT=&quot] :

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[FONT=&quot]Efesios 4:6 [/FONT]


un Dios y Padre de todos, el cual es sobre todos,


y por todos, ( Dios manifestado en carne , el Verbo echo carne, el Cordero de Dios que quita el pecado del mundo )



y en todos. ( La promesa del Espíritu Santo cumplida en Pentecostés)
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Me parece que usted no ha entendido el asunto: aunque a muchos se les pueda llamar "dioses" el único Dios de Jesús y de sus hermanos, es el Padre:

(Juan 20:17) Jesús le dijo: “Deja de colgarte de mí. Porque todavía no he ascendido al Padre. Pero ponte en camino a mis hermanos y diles: ‘Asciendo a mi Padre y Padre de ustedes y a mi Dios y Dios de ustedes’”.

1Cor.8:4 [...] no hay más que un solo Dios. 5 Porque aunque hay aquellos que son llamados “dioses”, sea en el cielo o en la tierra, así como hay muchos “dioses” y muchos “señores”, 6 realmente para nosotros hay un solo Dios el Padre, procedente de quien son todas las cosas, y nosotros para él [...]

Cuando Pablo dice "para nosotros" ... ¿se incluye usted en ese "nosotros" que tiene al Padre como único Dios?
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Me parece que usted no ha entendido el asunto: aunque a muchos se les pueda llamar "dioses" el único Dios de Jesús y de sus hermanos, es el Padre:

(Juan 20:17) Jesús le dijo: “Deja de colgarte de mí. Porque todavía no he ascendido al Padre. Pero ponte en camino a mis hermanos y diles: ‘Asciendo a mi Padre y Padre de ustedes y a mi Dios y Dios de ustedes’”.

1Cor.8:4 [...] no hay más que un solo Dios. 5 Porque aunque hay aquellos que son llamados “dioses”, sea en el cielo o en la tierra, así como hay muchos “dioses” y muchos “señores”, 6 realmente para nosotros hay un solo Dios el Padre, procedente de quien son todas las cosas, y nosotros para él [...]

Cuando Pablo dice "para nosotros" ... ¿se incluye usted en ese "nosotros" que tiene al Padre como único Dios?

y no le quedó claro
Efesios 4:6 "un Dios y Padre de todos, el cual es sobre todos,"

pero seguimos siendo dioses .
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

rey pacifico;1321565 [SIZE=3 dijo:
Distinción de tres personas divinas [/SIZE]en una sola y única esencia

Son terminos catolicos esos , no biblicos

Dios es Uno ...y Jesús es su nombre
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

y biblicos

1 Juan 5:7
Porque tres son los que dan testimonio en el cielo: el Padre, el Verbo y el Espíritu Santo; y estos tres son uno.

Lo peor que puedes hacer en el foro es poner textos espurios como 1 juan 5 :7

Te puede servir en tu escuelita dominical . pero es un insulto argumentar con esa mentira

Ni los católicos que inventaron esa mentira han perseverado en su error

Pones en vergüenza al Señor Jesucristo citando el error
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Lo peor que puedes hacer en el foro es poner textos espurios como 1 juan 5 :7

Te puede servir en tu escuelita dominical . pero es un insulto argumentar con esa mentira

Ni los católicos que inventaron esa mentira han perseverado en su error

Pones en vergüenza al Señor Jesucristo citando el error

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Lo creo porque soy hacedor de la Palabra de Dios y testifico que el Padre, el Verbo y el Espíritu Santo son uno y por lo tanto no puedo creerme como tú que esta Palabra sea falsa porque por testimonio del mismo Dios es verdadera y es consecuente con otras escrituras.
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Lo peor que puedes hacer en el foro es poner textos espurios como 1 juan 5 :7

Te puede servir en tu escuelita dominical . pero es un insulto argumentar con esa mentira

Ni los católicos que inventaron esa mentira han perseverado en su error

Pones en vergüenza al Señor Jesucristo citando el error

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> Honro y bendigo en el nombre del Señor Jesús a todas las escuelitas dominicales de todo el mundo y solicito a Dios la llanura del Espíritu Santo para todas sus maestras y maestros.

No pareces entender ---1 Juan 5 ;7 tal como sal en la version Valera 60 es una mentira del diablo

estudia un poco por favor antes de escribir mentiras

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_Joánica
 
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La revelación indica que Hay Un Dios y Un Señor .... el cual es revelado por Jesucristo

1.- El Verbo y Dios
2.- El Padre y el Hijo
3.- Dios y el Mediador
4.- Dios y El Cordero

Esto es una dualidad modalista siempre ... UN DIOS y UN SEÑOR

Lo Invisible y lo visible

Un solo DIOS verdadero, el Padre (jua 17:3, 1Cor 8:6)

Un solo Señor, Jesucristo, hecho Señor por el verdadero DIOS, el Padre...

Hch 2:36 Sepa, pues, ciertísimamente toda la casa de Israel, que a este Jesús a quien vosotros crucificasteis, Dios le ha hecho Señor y Cristo.

El padre de Jesucristo es el mismo DIOS de los judíos, el mismo del que se dijo que es UNO, el mismo que dijo soy uno y fuera de mi no hay DIOS... es decir él es el único y no hay otro DIOS.

Hablando a los judíos Jesucristo dice claramente...

Jua 8:54 Respondió Jesús: Si yo me glorifico a mí mismo, mi gloria nada es; mi Padre es el que me glorifica, el que vosotros decís que es vuestro Dios.

Más claro aún?

Jua 20:17 Jesús le dijo: No me toques, porque aún no he subido a mi Padre; mas ve a mis hermanos, y diles: Subo a mi Padre y a vuestro Padre, a mi Dios y a vuestro Dios.
 
Re: ¿JESUS DIJO QUE ERA DIOS?

Un solo DIOS verdadero, el Padre (jua 17:3, 1Cor 8:6)

Un solo Señor, Jesucristo, hecho Señor por el verdadero DIOS, el Padre...

Hch 2:36 Sepa, pues, ciertísimamente toda la casa de Israel, que a este Jesús a quien vosotros crucificasteis, Dios le ha hecho Señor y Cristo.

El padre de Jesucristo es el mismo DIOS de los judíos, el mismo del que se dijo que es UNO, el mismo que dijo soy uno y fuera de mi no hay DIOS... es decir él es el único y no hay otro DIOS.

Hablando a los judíos Jesucristo dice claramente...

Jua 8:54 Respondió Jesús: Si yo me glorifico a mí mismo, mi gloria nada es; mi Padre es el que me glorifica, el que vosotros decís que es vuestro Dios.

Más claro aún?

Jua 20:17 Jesús le dijo: No me toques, porque aún no he subido a mi Padre; mas ve a mis hermanos, y diles: Subo a mi Padre y a vuestro Padre, a mi Dios y a vuestro Dios.

Lo que ignoras que Jesús es Dios y es Señor

Un dia lo entenderas
 
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Lo que ignoras que Jesús es Dios y es Señor

Un dia lo entenderas

Si Jesucristo es DIOS y SEÑOR... ¿PORQUÉ DIOS LO HIZO SEÑOR?

No sabes que fue DIOS quien le dio poder a Jesucristo?
¿No sabes que DIOS "estaba" con él?

Hch 10:38 cómo Dios ungió con el Espíritu Santo y con poder a Jesús de Nazaret, y cómo éste anduvo haciendo bienes y sanando a todos los oprimidos por el diablo, porque Dios estaba con él.

El Dios que hizo el universo envió a Jesucristo...

Dios, el DIOS unico de los judíos, YHWH, envió mensaje a su pueblo por medio de Jesucristo...

Heb 1:1 Dios, habiendo hablado muchas veces y de muchas maneras en otro tiempo a los padres por los profetas,
Heb 1:2
en estos postreros días nos ha hablado por el Hijo, a quien constituyó heredero de todo, y por quien asimismo hizo el universo;

Hch 10:36 Dios envió mensaje a los hijos de Israel, anunciando el evangelio de la paz por medio de Jesucristo; éste es Señor de todos.
 
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El Dios que hizo el universo envió a Jesucristo...

Pues Jesucristo es el creador del Universo

Jn 1:10 En el mundo estaba, y el mundo por él fue hecho; pero el mundo no le conoció.

Veo que aun no conoces a Dios
 
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Pues Jesucristo es el creador del Universo
Jn 1:10 En el mundo estaba, y el mundo por él fue hecho; pero el mundo no le conoció.

Veo que aun no conoces a Dios

Si el texto anterior dice DIOS creó el universo para su hijo ... crees que ese "por él" se refiere a que él lo creó, luego él es DIOS el padre y a la vez el hijo... o ¿Crees que significa que "por él, por su causa se creó el universo... o que DIOS creó el universo por su causa...?

Obviamente es la segunda opción, pues si fuera la primera habría contradicción con ese texto y con este otro...

Col 1:16 Porque en él fueron creadas todas las cosas, las que hay en los cielos y las que hay en la tierra, visibles e invisibles; sean tronos, sean dominios, sean principados, sean potestades; todo fue creado por medio de él y para él.

Por medio de él... porque Dios creó TODO por medio de su palabra...

Para él... Dios creó todo para su hijo... ¿Cómo sería heredero sino tuviera Padre y herencia?

TODO procede de DIOS, el Padre...

1Co 8:6 para nosotros, sin embargo, sólo hay un Dios, el Padre, del cual proceden todas las cosas, y nosotros somos para él; y un Señor, Jesucristo, por medio del cual son todas las cosas, y nosotros por medio de él.

Y ese Padre, creador de todo por medio de su palabra es el único Dios verdadero...

Jesucristo orando a su Padre le dice...

Jua 17:3 Y esta es la vida eterna: que te conozcan a ti, el único Dios verdadero, y a Jesucristo, a quien has enviado.

¿Crees que Jesucristo diría mentiras a su Padre?
 
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Jesucristo orando a su Padre le dice...

Jua 17:3 Y esta es la vida eterna: que te conozcan a ti, el único Dios verdadero, y a Jesucristo, a quien has enviado.

¿Crees que Jesucristo diría mentiras a su Padre?

La vida eterna es conocer al Padre y a Jesucristo

Cosa que tu no conoces en lo mínimo