Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

¿quién dice que me den miedo las aguas bautismales?

lo que dije es que meterse en una piscina donde otros se han meado no me parece higiénico.


ya se que a ti te gusta mearte en la piscina y luego beberte el agua con los meados de otros pero es que tus vicios no me parecen higiénicos ni sanos.

hay gente en la India que se bañan en el ganges (que está lleno de mierda) y tampoco me parece higiénico.



a mi las sectas que sois aficionados a cochinadas de este estilo no me interesan demasiado.

¿hace falta meterse en una piscina donde la gente se mea y tragar agua para bautizarse o meterse en un rio lleno de mierda para purificarse?
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

las patochadas que haceis me parecen tan ridículas como los que se meten en el ganges.

tu puedes hacer las payasadas que quieras porque tienes alma de payaso pero no me involucres en tus bobadas
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


las patochadas que haceis me parecen tan ridículas como los que se meten en el ganges.

tu puedes hacer las payasadas que quieras porque tienes alma de payaso pero no me involucres en tus bobadas

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Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

¿os obligan en tu secta destructiva a consumir la música de estos tipos?
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


¿os obligan en tu secta destructiva a consumir la música de estos tipos?

Respondo: ¿Secta destructiva para tu iglesia católica apostólica romana?

Al parecer tampoco tienes buen oído para la música.

¿Prefieres el requetón?

¿De dónde sacas que nos obligan?

Acá puedes ver que la Iglesia Adventista al contrario de la católica no es racista.

Al parecer tu si lo eres ya que discriminas de este muy buen cuarteto que brinda alabanzas al Señor.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

¿he dicho yo que canten mal? simplemente hice una observación. es un grupo creado hace muchos años y es obvio que a vosotros os obligan a oir solo a este tipo de músicos para que no os contaminéis.

las sectas destructivas os comportáis de esa manera. os obligan a consumir solo esa música para que vuestro dinero acabe en manos de los mandarines de tu secta. los mandarines de tu secta necesitan plata para poder vivir como reyes y todos los trucos son bueno.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:

¿he dicho yo que canten mal? simplemente hice una observación.

Respondo: Pero de muy mal gusto.

es un grupo creado hace muchos años y es obvio que a vosotros os obligan a oir solo a este tipo de músicos para que no os contaminéis.

Respondo: Para nada.

Nadie nos obliga a oír este tipo de cantantes. Uno lo hace libremente, por que admira las buenas alabanzas para el Señor.


las sectas destructivas os comportáis de esa manera. os obligan a consumir solo esa música para que vuestro dinero acabe en manos de los mandarines de tu secta. los mandarines de tu secta necesitan plata para poder vivir como reyes y todos los trucos son bueno.

Respondo: Acá se puede ver que tu camiseta católica está bajo tu ropaje, aunque trates de decir que ya no te importa tu religión.

Estos himnos y canciones de alabanza y adoración, los puedes bajar sin pagar ni una sola peseta, desde Youtube.

Pero lo mal hablado y mal educado, no se te va a quitar tan fácilmente.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

eres tu el que usa a ese grupo de cantamañanas como si fueran artistas de primer nivel.

tu eres el que lo usa a esos contorcillos para fanfarronear como si fueran un equipo de futbol que acabase de ganar un mundial.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


eres tu el que usa a ese grupo de cantamañanas como si fueran artistas de primer nivel.

tu eres el que lo usa a esos contorcillos para fanfarronear como si fueran un equipo de futbol que acabase de ganar un mundial.

Respondo: Se ve que no tienes oído para la música sacra y espiritual.

Tus palabras denotan envidia y fracaso.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

es que en vez de oido tienes oreja.

a ti te engaña cualquier pelagatos.
lo único que necesita hacer el que te vaya a engañar es contarte conspiraciones y te quita todo el dinero que tienes
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:

es que en vez de oido tienes oreja.

a ti te engaña cualquier pelagatos.
lo único que necesita hacer el que te vaya a engañar es contarte conspiraciones y te quita todo el dinero que tienes

Respondo: Tonteras de tu parte.

Acá se puede observar que tienes los oídos tapados como los de tu virgencita de yeso.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

ya estás con tus traumas de las virgencitas de yeso.

¿aún no superaste esa erección que tuviste ante la virgencita de yeso?
¿te castigó tu papá?

tienes muchos problemas mentales sin resolver.

el otro día te descubriste y ya sabemos cual es el origen de tu trauma con las virgencitas de yeso.

no te preocupes, con paciencia tu mente podrá ir abandonado paulatinamente tanto deterioro
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Respondo: Tonteras de tu parte.

Acá se puede observar que tienes los oídos tapados como los de tu virgencita de yeso.

Volviendo al tema:

gabrielín, si hubieses estado en esas reuniones, ¿te taparías los oídos de tanta gritería o también griarías?
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado aitor. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


ya estás con tus traumas de las virgencitas de yeso.

¿aún no superaste esa erección que tuviste ante la virgencita de yeso?
¿te castigó tu papá?

tienes muchos problemas mentales sin resolver.

el otro día te descubriste y ya sabemos cual es el origen de tu trauma con las virgencitas de yeso.

no te preocupes, con paciencia tu mente podrá ir abandonado paulatinamente tanto deterioro

Respondo: ¿Ya te convenciste que esas imágenes son un vil negociado de tu no santa iglesia?
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado ernesto. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


Volviendo al tema:

gabrielín, si hubieses estado en esas reuniones, ¿te taparías los oídos de tanta gritería o también griarías?

Respondo: Dios es un Dios de orden.

“El Señor quiere que sus servicios se caractericen por el orden y la disciplina, y no por la agitación y la confusión... Cuando los creyentes proclaman la verdad como está ejemplificada en Jesús, manifiestan una calma santa y serena, y no una tormenta de confusión”. Mensajes selectos (Mountain View, California: Publicaciones Interamericanas, 1969), 2: 40,41.
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Respondo: Dios es un Dios de orden.

“El Señor quiere que sus servicios se caractericen por el orden y la disciplina, y no por la agitación y la confusión... Cuando los creyentes proclaman la verdad como está ejemplificada en Jesús, manifiestan una calma santa y serena, y no una tormenta de confusión”. Mensajes selectos (Mountain View, California: Publicaciones Interamericanas, 1969), 2: 40,41.

Aquí tienes a tus pioneritos gritando, cayendo al suelo, "riendose en el espíritu", hablando en lenguas, etc., etc.

"Singing, I saw, often drove away the enemy, and shouting would beat him back". Ellen White 21 MR 238.1

"Last night I felt more of the power of God than I have at any one time for three years. Brethren Ingraham, Sanborn, and I were praying in another room. While a brother was anointing his wife, the room was filled with the power of God. I was standing, but with difficulty. I fell upon my face, and cried and groaned under the power of God. Brethren Sanborn and Ingraham felt about the same. We all lay on the floor under the power of God. We are perfectly free." James White to Ellen White, Nov. 6, 1860.

"Sunday the power of God came upon us like a mighty rushing wind. All arose upon their feet and praised God with a loud voice; it was something as it was when the foundation of the house of God
was laid. The voice of weeping could not be told from the voice of shouting. It was a triumphant time; all were strengthened and refreshed. I never witnessed such a powerful time before."
Ellen G. White to The Church in Brother Hastings' House, Nov. 7, 1850 (letter 28, 1850)

Sister Harris and Clarissa were set entirely free, and they prayed God with a loud voice. The Spirit caused Clarissa to laugh aloud. James was healed every whit; the great distress he had had in his head was every whit removed, and he looked as though he had got the holy anointing. The fever and all pain left him, and he ate and was strengthened. He walked out upon his faith, harnessed his horse, and he and I went to Port Byron, one mile and a half and back. He gained strength very fast. He is quite strong today. Praise the good Lord."— Ellen White --Letter 12, 1850, p. 2. (To Brother and Sister Howland, August 15, 1850.) 5MR 239.1

"Just as the meeting closed, Sister Meade, who had been afflicted with a slow fever, requested us to pray for her. We went into a room by ourselves, Brethren Holt, Wheeler, Stowell, James, and self. After I had anointed her with oil we prayed over her, and she was healed every whit and fell prostrate by the power of God. That night we got into a rowboat and went on the pond" 5MR 239.5

"Monday Nov. 19, we started on our journey, in full faith that God had taken Bro. Rhode's case into his own hands, and that he woul d come with us; for when God works, something is accomplished. As we journeyed on, we felt the presence of God and his attending angels. We did not have to go in to the wilderness; for Bro. Rhodes had come out a few days previous, and we found him at work in a
field, on a rise of ground on the east side of Black River. We told him that we had come in the name of the Lord to get him to go with us and see the brethren, and go with us into the Kingdom. God displayed his convincing power, and Bro. Ralph spoke in a new tongue, and gave the interpretation in power, and in the demonstration of the Holy Ghost." HIRAM EDSON. Oswego, N. Y. Nov. 26, 1849

"There has been some division [in Connecticut] as to the time of beginning the Sabbath. Some commenced at sundown. Most, however, at 6:00 P.M. A week ago Sabbath we made this a subject of prayer. The Holy Ghost came down; Brother Chamberlain was filled with the power. In this state he cried out in an unknown tongue. The interpretation followed, which was this: “Give me the chalk. Give me the chalk.” 1BIO 199.3

Well, thought I, if there is none in the house, then I shall doubt this, but in a moment a brother took down a good piece of chalk. Brother Chamberlain took it and in the power he drew this figure on the floor [a circle divided by crossing horizontal and vertical lines and the figures, 12, 3, 6, and 9 written in, as on the face of a clock]. 1BIO 199.4

This represents Jesus’ words. Are there not twelve hours in the day? This figure represents the day or the last half of the day. Daylight is half gone when the sun is south or halfway from each horizon, at twelve o’clock. Now go each way six hours, and you will get the twelve-hour day. At any time a year, the day ends at 6:00 P.M. Here is where the Sabbath begins at 6:00 P.M.—"
JW to “My Dear Brother,” July 2, 1848. 1BIO 199.5
 
Re: Ellen White y el juicio de Israel Dammon

Estimado ernesto. Saludos cordiales.

Tú dices:


Aquí tienes a tus pioneritos gritando, cayendo al suelo, "riendose en el espíritu", hablando en lenguas, etc., etc.

"Singing, I saw, often drove away the enemy, and shouting would beat him back". Ellen White 21 MR 238.1

"Last night I felt more of the power of God than I have at any one time for three years. Brethren Ingraham, Sanborn, and I were praying in another room. While a brother was anointing his wife, the room was filled with the power of God. I was standing, but with difficulty. I fell upon my face, and cried and groaned under the power of God. Brethren Sanborn and Ingraham felt about the same. We all lay on the floor under the power of God. We are perfectly free." James White to Ellen White, Nov. 6, 1860.

"Sunday the power of God came upon us like a mighty rushing wind. All arose upon their feet and praised God with a loud voice; it was something as it was when the foundation of the house of God
was laid. The voice of weeping could not be told from the voice of shouting. It was a triumphant time; all were strengthened and refreshed. I never witnessed such a powerful time before."
Ellen G. White to The Church in Brother Hastings' House, Nov. 7, 1850 (letter 28, 1850)

Sister Harris and Clarissa were set entirely free, and they prayed God with a loud voice. The Spirit caused Clarissa to laugh aloud. James was healed every whit; the great distress he had had in his head was every whit removed, and he looked as though he had got the holy anointing. The fever and all pain left him, and he ate and was strengthened. He walked out upon his faith, harnessed his horse, and he and I went to Port Byron, one mile and a half and back. He gained strength very fast. He is quite strong today. Praise the good Lord."— Ellen White --Letter 12, 1850, p. 2. (To Brother and Sister Howland, August 15, 1850.) 5MR 239.1

"Just as the meeting closed, Sister Meade, who had been afflicted with a slow fever, requested us to pray for her. We went into a room by ourselves, Brethren Holt, Wheeler, Stowell, James, and self. After I had anointed her with oil we prayed over her, and she was healed every whit and fell prostrate by the power of God. That night we got into a rowboat and went on the pond" 5MR 239.5

"Monday Nov. 19, we started on our journey, in full faith that God had taken Bro. Rhode's case into his own hands, and that he woul d come with us; for when God works, something is accomplished. As we journeyed on, we felt the presence of God and his attending angels. We did not have to go in to the wilderness; for Bro. Rhodes had come out a few days previous, and we found him at work in a
field, on a rise of ground on the east side of Black River. We told him that we had come in the name of the Lord to get him to go with us and see the brethren, and go with us into the Kingdom. God displayed his convincing power, and Bro. Ralph spoke in a new tongue, and gave the interpretation in power, and in the demonstration of the Holy Ghost." HIRAM EDSON. Oswego, N. Y. Nov. 26, 1849

"There has been some division [in Connecticut] as to the time of beginning the Sabbath. Some commenced at sundown. Most, however, at 6:00 P.M. A week ago Sabbath we made this a subject of prayer. The Holy Ghost came down; Brother Chamberlain was filled with the power. In this state he cried out in an unknown tongue. The interpretation followed, which was this: “Give me the chalk. Give me the chalk.” 1BIO 199.3

Well, thought I, if there is none in the house, then I shall doubt this, but in a moment a brother took down a good piece of chalk. Brother Chamberlain took it and in the power he drew this figure on the floor [a circle divided by crossing horizontal and vertical lines and the figures, 12, 3, 6, and 9 written in, as on the face of a clock]. 1BIO 199.4

This represents Jesus’ words. Are there not twelve hours in the day? This figure represents the day or the last half of the day. Daylight is half gone when the sun is south or halfway from each horizon, at twelve o’clock. Now go each way six hours, and you will get the twelve-hour day. At any time a year, the day ends at 6:00 P.M. Here is where the Sabbath begins at 6:00 P.M.—"
JW to “My Dear Brother,” July 2, 1848. 1BIO 199.5

Respondo: La iglesia Adventista se conformó con creyentes que venían de muchas iglesias diferentes, y cada miembro reaccionaba de acuerdo a lo que en sus anteriores denominaciones le habían enseñado.

Pero poco a poco, los movimientos fanáticos y extravagantes fueron contrarrestados por los sabios consejos del espíritu de profecía.