Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

era asi -> lo de casarse no se, ¿ cual es el tema?

y cual fue el pecado de la humanidad? y hay angeles q esperan el jucio por pecado.


...y los angeles que (aggelous de tous) no guardaron (me teresantas) la de ellos preeminencia (ten eauton archen), sino q abandonaron (alla apolipontas) su propia morada (yo idion oiketerion), para el juicio del gran dia (eis krisin megales emeras) en prisiones perpetuas (desmois aidios) bajo oscuridad ha guardado (hupo zophon te tereken); como Sodoma ( hos Sodoma) y Gomorra (kai Gomorra) y las entorno de ellas ciudades (kai hai peri autas poleis), de semejante manera (ton homoion iropon) a estos (toutois) habiendo fornicado (ekporneusasai) y habiendo ido en pos (kai apeloousai hopiso) de carne diferente (sacros heteras), son propuestas (procreintai) como ejemplo (deigma), de un fuego eterno (puros aionion) la pena sufriendo (diken hupechousai).

(Judas 6:7 N.T.I. Griego-Español).

los angeles no tiene sexo lol? tonces no se pueden materealizar.

mateo 22:30
Porque en la resurrecion ni se casaran ni se daran en casamiento, sino seran como los angeles de Dios en el cielo.

leelo completo desde donde empieza el tema pa enterderle la enseñanza. hay q recalcar q usa frase daran en casamiento. y habla del tiempo de la resurrecion. en ese tiempo.

Mas como en los dias de Noe, asi sera tambien la venida del hijo del hombre.
Por q como en los dias antes del diluvio estaban comiendo y bebiendo, casandose y dandose en casamiento, hasta el dia en q Noe entro en el arca.

y no entendieron hasta q vino el diluvio y se los llevo a todos, asi será tambien la venida del Hijo del Hombre. (Mateo 24:37-39)

es una enseñanza. asi como los angeles de la antiguedad que pecaron. Jesús manifesto un hecho claro: Los ángeles de hoy que estan en los cielos y que nos sirven, no se casan ni se dan en casamiento. ¿Por que? Por que ellos han escogido guardar su dignidad y por ser santos.

Por que el que se avergonzare de mi y de mis palabras en esta generacion adultera y pecadora, el Hijo del Hombre se avergonzará tambien de él, cuando venga en la gloria de su Padre con los santos angeles. (marcos 8:38).

han sido escogidos .

Te encarezco delante de Dios y del Señor Jesucristo, y de sus angeles escogidos, que guardes estas cosas sin perjucios, no haciendo nada con parcialidad. (1 timoteo 5:21).

escribe las ideas claras y en orden que eso parece un plato de espaguetes mal preparado
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

escribe las ideas claras y en orden que eso parece un plato de espaguetes mal preparado

No muestres tus garras de tigre, Deneto, un poco más de cortesía no impide el diálogo, es más, lo enaltece. Lo cortés no quita lo valiente.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Justo tocaron el tema que más me fascina.

Aquí expondré un poco de lo mío
(lo siguiente es tomado de una web)


IDENTIFYING THE SONS OF GOD

There is no problem in identifying the "daughters of men" for this is a familiar method of designating women in the Bible. The problem lies with the "sons of God." Three major interpretations have been offered to shed light on this cryptic designation.

First, a group within orthodox Judaism theorized that "sons of God" meant "nobles" or "magnates." Hardly anyone today accepts this view.

Second, some interpret the "sons of God" as fallen angels. These were enticed by the women of Earth and began lusting after them. Many reputable Bible commentators have rejected this theory on psycho-physiological grounds. How can one believe, they ask, that angels from Heaven could engage in sexual relations with women from Earth? Philastrius labeled such an interpretation a down-right heresy.

Third, many famed scholars contend that the "sons of God" are the male descendants of Seth, and that the "daughters of men" are the female descendants of Cain. According to this view, what actually happened in Genesis 6 was an early example of believers marrying unbelievers. The good sons of Seth married the bad daughters of Cain, and the result of these mixed marriages was a mongrel offspring. These later became known for their decadence and corruption; indeed, it reached such a degree that God was forced to intervene and destroy the human race. This comment of Matthew Henry could be taken as representative of those holding this view:

"The sons of Seth (that is the professors of religion) married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. The posterity of Seth did not keep by themselves, as they ought to have done. They inter- mingled themselves with the excommunicated race of Cain." (1)

However, in spite of the excellent pedigree of the proponents of this theory, their argument is not convincing. Their interpretation is pure eisegesis--they are guilty of reading into the text what is obviously not there.

FALSE EXEGESIS

Their interpretation fails on other grounds as well. At no time, before the Flood or after, has God destroyed or threatened to destroy the human race for the sin of "mixed marriages." It is impossible to reconcile this extreme punishment with the mere verbal strictures found elsewhere in the Bible for the same practice. If God is going to be consistent, He should have destroyed the human race many times over!

The contrast made in Genesis 6:2 is not between the descendants of Seth and the descendants of Cain, but between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." If by "sons of God" is meant "sons of Seth," then only the sons of Seth engaged in mixed marriages, and not the daughters. And only the daughters of Cain were involved, and not the sons. And another strange assumption is implied: that only the sons of Seth were godly, and only the daughters of Cain were evil.

The strangeness is compounded when one seeks for evidence that the sons of Seth were godly. We know from Genesis that when the time came for God to destroy the human race, He found only one godly family left among them--that of Noah. Where were all the other supposedly godly sons of Seth? Even Seth's own son could hardly be called righteous. His name was Enos, meaning "mortal" or "frail." And he certainly lived up to it! Genesis 4:26 reads, "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." That statement seems harmless enough, but what does it mean when it says that it was only now that men began to call upon the name of the Lord? Upon whom did Adam call? And Abel? And Seth himself?

Some scholars give us a more literal and exact translation to this verse: "Then men began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah." Other scholars translate the statement in this manner: "Then men began to call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If either of these be the correct translation then the evidence for the so-called godly line of Seth is non- existent. The truth of the matter is that Enos and his line, with few noted exceptions, were as ungodly as the other line. The divine record could not be clearer: "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:12).

In the Old Testament, the designation "sons of God" (bene Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man but lower than God. To fit such a category only one species is known--angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels. These are the beings of whom Augustine wrote:

"Like the gods they have corporeal immortality, and passions like human beings." (2)

The designation "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. One example is Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." The translation is different and clearer in our modern versions, "like a son of the gods." Since Jesus had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic.

Another example is Job 38:7 which says the sons of God shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth. Angels are the only entities that fit this designation since man had not been created at that time!

In Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 the "sons of God" came to present themselves before the Lord in Heaven. Among the sons of God is Satan--a further implication that the "sons of God" must have been angels.

Since the designation "sons of God" is consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, it is logical to conclude that the term in Genesis 6:2 also refers to angels.

SONS OF GOD: THREE CATEGORIES

In the New Testament, born-again believers in Christ are called the children of God or the sons of God (Luke 3:38, John 1:12, Romans 8:14, 1 John 3:1). Dr. Bullinger in the Companion Bible states: "It is only by the divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called 'a son of God.'" This explains why every born-again believer is a son of God. It explains also why Adam was a son of God. Adam was specifically created by God, "in the likeness of God made He him" (Genesis 5:1). Adam's descendants, however, were different; they were not made in God's likeness but in Adam's. Adam "begat a son in his own likeness, after his image" (Genesis 5:3). Adam was a "son of God," but Adam's descendants were "sons of men."

Lewis Sperry Chafer expresses this in an interesting way when he states:

"In the Old Testament terminology angels are called sons of God while men are called servants of God. In the New Testament this is reversed. Angels are the servants and Christians are the sons of God." (3)

It is thus clear that the term "sons of God" in the Bible is limited to three categories of beings: angels, Adam and believers. All three are special and specific creations of God. As for the use of the term in Genesis 6, since it cannot possibly refer to Adam nor believers in Christ, we conclude that it has to refer to the angels whom God had created.

LIGHT FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT

Two New Testament passages shed further light on Genesis 6. They are Jude 6-7 and 2 Peter 2:4. These verses indicate that at some point in time a number of angels fell from their pristine state and proceeded to commit a sexual sin that was both unusual and repugnant. Jude 6-7 states:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh..."

These angels not only failed to keep their original dominion and authority, but they "left their own habitation." Habitation is a significant word: it means "dwelling place" or "heaven." And the addition of the Greek word "idion" ("their own") means that they left their own private, personal, unique possession. (4) Heaven was the private, personal residence of the angels. It was not made for man but for the angels. This is why the ultimate destination of the saints will not be Heaven but the new and perfect Earth which God will create (Revelation 21:1-3). Heaven is reserved for the angels, but as for the beings referred to in Jude 6-7, they abandoned it.

Not only did these angels leave Heaven, they left it once-for- all. The Greek verb "apoleipo" is in the aorist tense, thus indicating a once-for-all act. By taking the action they did, these angels made a final and irretrievable decision. They crossed the Rubicon. Their action, says Kenneth Wuest, "was apostasy with a vengeance." (5)

As to the specific sin of these angels, we are given the facts in Jude 7. As in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it was the sin of "fornication" and it means "going after strange flesh." "Strange" flesh means flesh of a different kind (Greek "heteros"). To commit this particularly repugnant sin, the angels had to abandon their own domain and invade a realm that was divinely forbidden to them. Says Wuest:

"These angels transgressed the limits of their own natures to invade a realm of created beings of a different nature." (6)

Alford confirms:

"It was a departure from the appointed course of nature and seeking after that which is unnatural, to other flesh than that appointed by God for the fulfillment of natural desire."

The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God's greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race.

Por lo visto muchos saben inglés. Luego pondré una traducción

Dios les Bendiga!
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

No muestres tus garras de tigre, Deneto, un poco más de cortesía no impide el diálogo, es más, lo enaltece. Lo cortés no quita lo valiente.

seria mas claro y entendible si el escribiera las ideas en forma ordenada y escritas con orden pero asi no se le entiende nada.

y no he sacado mis garras porque soy un tigre manso y tierno, solamente que por ser tigre les tiembla la mano para dirigirse a mi y cuando quieren tapar su nerviosismo terminan insultandome como si eso les diera la razon.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Justo tocaron el tema que más me fascina.

Aquí expondré un poco de lo mío
(lo siguiente es tomado de una web)




Por lo visto muchos saben inglés. Luego pondré una traducción

Dios les Bendiga!



y cuando no es ingles en castellano no se les entiende lo que dicen
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

y cuando no es ingles en castellano no se les entiende lo que dicen
En verdad que eres agresivo y sin razón! Debate y presenta tus argunmentos! Esperamos.!!

Dios te bendice!

Greivin.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

IDENTIFYING THE SONS OF GOD

There is no problem in identifying the "daughters of men" for this is a familiar method of designating women in the Bible. The problem lies with the "sons of God." Three major interpretations have been offered to shed light on this cryptic designation.

First, a group within orthodox Judaism theorized that "sons of God" meant "nobles" or "magnates." Hardly anyone today accepts this view.

Second, some interpret the "sons of God" as fallen angels. These were enticed by the women of Earth and began lusting after them. Many reputable Bible commentators have rejected this theory on psycho-physiological grounds. How can one believe, they ask, that angels from Heaven could engage in sexual relations with women from Earth? Philastrius labeled such an interpretation a down-right heresy.

Third, many famed scholars contend that the "sons of God" are the male descendants of Seth, and that the "daughters of men" are the female descendants of Cain. According to this view, what actually happened in Genesis 6 was an early example of believers marrying unbelievers. The good sons of Seth married the bad daughters of Cain, and the result of these mixed marriages was a mongrel offspring. These later became known for their decadence and corruption; indeed, it reached such a degree that God was forced to intervene and destroy the human race. This comment of Matthew Henry could be taken as representative of those holding this view:

"The sons of Seth (that is the professors of religion) married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. The posterity of Seth did not keep by themselves, as they ought to have done. They inter- mingled themselves with the excommunicated race of Cain." (1)

However, in spite of the excellent pedigree of the proponents of this theory, their argument is not convincing. Their interpretation is pure eisegesis--they are guilty of reading into the text what is obviously not there.

FALSE EXEGESIS

Their interpretation fails on other grounds as well. At no time, before the Flood or after, has God destroyed or threatened to destroy the human race for the sin of "mixed marriages." It is impossible to reconcile this extreme punishment with the mere verbal strictures found elsewhere in the Bible for the same practice. If God is going to be consistent, He should have destroyed the human race many times over!

The contrast made in Genesis 6:2 is not between the descendants of Seth and the descendants of Cain, but between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." If by "sons of God" is meant "sons of Seth," then only the sons of Seth engaged in mixed marriages, and not the daughters. And only the daughters of Cain were involved, and not the sons. And another strange assumption is implied: that only the sons of Seth were godly, and only the daughters of Cain were evil.

The strangeness is compounded when one seeks for evidence that the sons of Seth were godly. We know from Genesis that when the time came for God to destroy the human race, He found only one godly family left among them--that of Noah. Where were all the other supposedly godly sons of Seth? Even Seth's own son could hardly be called righteous. His name was Enos, meaning "mortal" or "frail." And he certainly lived up to it! Genesis 4:26 reads, "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." That statement seems harmless enough, but what does it mean when it says that it was only now that men began to call upon the name of the Lord? Upon whom did Adam call? And Abel? And Seth himself?

Some scholars give us a more literal and exact translation to this verse: "Then men began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah." Other scholars translate the statement in this manner: "Then men began to call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If either of these be the correct translation then the evidence for the so-called godly line of Seth is non- existent. The truth of the matter is that Enos and his line, with few noted exceptions, were as ungodly as the other line. The divine record could not be clearer: "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:12).

In the Old Testament, the designation "sons of God" (bene Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man but lower than God. To fit such a category only one species is known--angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels. These are the beings of whom Augustine wrote:

"Like the gods they have corporeal immortality, and passions like human beings." (2)

The designation "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. One example is Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." The translation is different and clearer in our modern versions, "like a son of the gods." Since Jesus had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic.

Another example is Job 38:7 which says the sons of God shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth. Angels are the only entities that fit this designation since man had not been created at that time!

In Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 the "sons of God" came to present themselves before the Lord in Heaven. Among the sons of God is Satan--a further implication that the "sons of God" must have been angels.

Since the designation "sons of God" is consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, it is logical to conclude that the term in Genesis 6:2 also refers to angels.

SONS OF GOD: THREE CATEGORIES

In the New Testament, born-again believers in Christ are called the children of God or the sons of God (Luke 3:38, John 1:12, Romans 8:14, 1 John 3:1). Dr. Bullinger in the Companion Bible states: "It is only by the divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called 'a son of God.'" This explains why every born-again believer is a son of God. It explains also why Adam was a son of God. Adam was specifically created by God, "in the likeness of God made He him" (Genesis 5:1). Adam's descendants, however, were different; they were not made in God's likeness but in Adam's. Adam "begat a son in his own likeness, after his image" (Genesis 5:3). Adam was a "son of God," but Adam's descendants were "sons of men."

Lewis Sperry Chafer expresses this in an interesting way when he states:

"In the Old Testament terminology angels are called sons of God while men are called servants of God. In the New Testament this is reversed. Angels are the servants and Christians are the sons of God." (3)

It is thus clear that the term "sons of God" in the Bible is limited to three categories of beings: angels, Adam and believers. All three are special and specific creations of God. As for the use of the term in Genesis 6, since it cannot possibly refer to Adam nor believers in Christ, we conclude that it has to refer to the angels whom God had created.

LIGHT FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT

Two New Testament passages shed further light on Genesis 6. They are Jude 6-7 and 2 Peter 2:4. These verses indicate that at some point in time a number of angels fell from their pristine state and proceeded to commit a sexual sin that was both unusual and repugnant. Jude 6-7 states:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh..."

These angels not only failed to keep their original dominion and authority, but they "left their own habitation." Habitation is a significant word: it means "dwelling place" or "heaven." And the addition of the Greek word "idion" ("their own") means that they left their own private, personal, unique possession. (4) Heaven was the private, personal residence of the angels. It was not made for man but for the angels. This is why the ultimate destination of the saints will not be Heaven but the new and perfect Earth which God will create (Revelation 21:1-3). Heaven is reserved for the angels, but as for the beings referred to in Jude 6-7, they abandoned it.

Not only did these angels leave Heaven, they left it once-for- all. The Greek verb "apoleipo" is in the aorist tense, thus indicating a once-for-all act. By taking the action they did, these angels made a final and irretrievable decision. They crossed the Rubicon. Their action, says Kenneth Wuest, "was apostasy with a vengeance." (5)

As to the specific sin of these angels, we are given the facts in Jude 7. As in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it was the sin of "fornication" and it means "going after strange flesh." "Strange" flesh means flesh of a different kind (Greek "heteros"). To commit this particularly repugnant sin, the angels had to abandon their own domain and invade a realm that was divinely forbidden to them. Says Wuest:

"These angels transgressed the limits of their own natures to invade a realm of created beings of a different nature." (6)

Alford confirms:

"It was a departure from the appointed course of nature and seeking after that which is unnatural, to other flesh than that appointed by God for the fulfillment of natural desire."

The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God's greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race.



Yo estoy totalmente de acuerdo con esta postura, siempre lo he estado, pensé que era sólo yo, pero parece que varios pensamos igual.

Es una pena que nadie haya podido responder las prenguntas que hice en la página número 1, pero sigamos con el tema es muy interesante.

En cuanto a la llamada de atención de nube, sólo puedo decir que esta es su forma de participar, a ninguna persona adulta y pensante le debe molestar el intercambio de ideas o la facilitación de su continuidad. Los que a mí si me molestan son los autodenominados rectores y correctores de la libre expresión de los demás. Con esta gente, no converso nada. Harta estoy de ver sus falcónidas ideas, rapaces destructoras de ideas bajo una moralidad cuestionable. Lobos con pieles de ovejas. Siempre los identifico muy rápidamente. Tengo talento natural para eso. Greivin es una persona de lo más sensata, después de algún tiempo no me queda la menor duda de que razona y es un verdadero cristiano.

Dios los bendiga y gracias al último Juan por traer esta aportación
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Unas preguntitas si fuera tan gentil:

Según estos versículos, los ángeles tienen libre albedrío?

Los ángeles tienen deseos sexuales o sólo los ángeles caídos adquieren ese deseo?

Al estar lejos de la presencia de Dios, hay alguna deformidad en los ángeles caídos?

Si esto es así, significa que además de gigantes, han podido producir seres mitad animales y mitad hombres o en su defecto, seres como en la actualidad llamamos algunas deformidades como: el niño elefante, el niño foca, etc, que son muy actuales?

Saludos!!

Can anybody here, help me with the answers of these questions?
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Estimada Drakonian, gracias a Dios podemos respirar de la intoxicación sexual que usted había inundado el foro. Ahora, ya cerrado por el webmaster, cosa que aplaudimos muchos de los que aquí estamos, no venga a ensuciar con lo mismo. Además que viene con sus pezuñas desacreditando por doquier.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Estimada Drakonian, gracias a Dios podemos respirar de la intoxicación sexual que usted había inundado el foro. Ahora, ya cerrado por el webmaster, cosa que aplaudimos muchos de los que aquí estamos, no venga a ensuciar con lo mismo. Además que viene con sus pezuñas desacreditando por doquier.

Ya lo dije una vez, y lo vuelvo a repetir

ISIS NO ABRIÓ EL TEMA DEL SEXO ORAL

y no veo que aquí esté intoxicando con nada de asunto sexual
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

En verdad que eres agresivo y sin razón! Debate y presenta tus argunmentos! Esperamos.!!

Dios te bendice!

Greivin.

jajajaja solo buscas provocarme pera ya he dicho mis argumentos y estoy esperando a ver si los testigos refutan pero parece que no tienen n argumentos
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

En cuanto a la llamada de atención de nube, sólo puedo decir que esta es su forma de participar, a ninguna persona adulta y pensante le debe molestar el intercambio de ideas o la facilitación de su continuidad. Los que a mí si me molestan son los autodenominados rectores y correctores de la libre expresión de los demás. Con esta gente, no converso nada. Harta estoy de ver sus falcónidas ideas, rapaces destructoras de ideas bajo una moralidad cuestionable. Lobos con pieles de ovejas. Siempre los identifico muy rápidamente. Tengo talento natural para eso. Greivin es una persona de lo más sensata, después de algún tiempo no me queda la menor duda de que razona y es un verdadero cristiano.

Dios los bendiga y gracias al último Juan por traer esta aportación
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Publicado originalmente por Draconian

Unas preguntitas si fuera tan gentil:

Según estos versículos, los ángeles tienen libre albedrío?

Los ángeles tienen deseos sexuales o sólo los ángeles caídos adquieren ese deseo?

Al estar lejos de la presencia de Dios, hay alguna deformidad en los ángeles caídos?

Si esto es así, significa que además de gigantes, han podido producir seres mitad animales y mitad hombres o en su defecto, seres como en la actualidad llamamos algunas deformidades como: el niño elefante, el niño foca, etc, que son muy actuales?

Saludos!!


Sip, tienen libre albedrío. O sino, cómo Se pudieron haber revelado los caídos y Samael?

Sobre los deseos sexuales, no estoy seguro, lo estudiaré a fondo y luego chamullearé.

Yo creo que ellos eligen ese aspecto, una luz de ella la da Pablo al decir que "se disfrazan"
o no?
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas


Ya lo dije una vez, y lo vuelvo a repetir

ISIS NO ABRIÓ EL TEMA DEL SEXO ORAL

y no veo que aquí esté intoxicando con nada de asunto sexual

Cierto, pero se erigió hizando la bandera hasta hacerlo suyo y personal. Sin tener en cuenta la moral de otros cristianos, que son tan válidas como la suya. Y por cierto, he leído el texto que colocó Drakonian y arroja luz al tema. Pero q no venga dando patadas.

Respecto a la sexualidad de los ángeles caídos, también es pertinente a este tema.

Aunque parezca que estoy ocupando la silla de juez, lo que intento es velar por una sana discusión. De todas formas tómenlo como exhortación. Y yastá.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Los epígrafes no tienen dueño, aunque algunos sueñen con serlo, soñar no cuesta nada...a ver si álguien puede responder las preguntas que hice please.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Estimada Drakonian, gracias a Dios podemos respirar de la intoxicación sexual que usted había inundado el foro. Ahora, ya cerrado por el webmaster, cosa que aplaudimos muchos de los que aquí estamos, no venga a ensuciar con lo mismo. Además que viene con sus pezuñas desacreditando por doquier.

crei que eras mas sensato y tratabas mejor a los demas que el trato que me has dado a mi, pero me doy cuenta que eres asi con todos y especialmente con las damas, respeta a nube y draconian que han venido y aportado al tema.


no sabes que este es un foro de debate publico?

tu pudistes abrir el tema pero tu no eres el que determina si las personas participan o no y si escriben o no, porque ese es un derecho natural de todos los que integran el foro y solo webmaster determina quienes no escriben cuando los expulsa, pero no le quita a nadie ese derecho.


 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas


Sip, tienen libre albedrío. O sino, cómo Se pudieron haber revelado los caídos y Samael?

Sobre los deseos sexuales, no estoy seguro, lo estudiaré a fondo y luego chamullearé.

Yo creo que ellos eligen ese aspecto, una luz de ella la da Pablo al decir que "se disfrazan"
o no?

en que parte de la biblia se menciona a samael como un angel?

y donde dice que es un angel caido?
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas


Sip, tienen libre albedrío. O sino, cómo Se pudieron haber revelado los caídos y Samael?

Sobre los deseos sexuales, no estoy seguro, lo estudiaré a fondo y luego chamullearé.

Yo creo que ellos eligen ese aspecto, una luz de ella la da Pablo al decir que "se disfrazan"
o no?

Se me ocurre que los ángeles caídos pervirtieron su naturaleza celestial, experimentando con las humanas. Pienso que no solo gigantes nacieron de esa unión...pudieron ser seres deformes. Una cosa que siempre me ha llamado la atención es que todas las antiguas culturas tinen en sus mitos, seres mitad humanos y mitad animales.
 
Re: Génesis 6:2: viendo los hijos de Dios que las hijas de los hombres eran hermosas

Tenga cuidado Drakonian con su lenguaje y actitud. Nada me impide velar por una sana dialéctica. Y una actitud chulesca tendrá su resultado tarde o temprano.