Tienen instinto y varios tienen capacidad de aprendizaje.... eso puede ser astucia, mas no sabiduria, eso es un regalo que Dios nos dios solo a los seres humanos
Definamos "astucia" según el Diccionario de la lengua española © 2005 Espasa-Calpe::
astucia
1.f. Sagacidad;
sutileza, habilidad para engañar o evitar el engaño y lograr un objetivo:
llevó el asunto con astucia y consiguió la herencia
2.Ardid, treta, artimaña:
en la fábula se narran las astucias de la zorra.
Ahora veamos los sinonimos de esta palabra:
astucia
•ardid, artimaña, sutileza, artería, arte, maña, añagaza, artificio, treta, triquiñuela, picardía, cuquería, zorrería, marrullería, fullería, malabarismo, cazurrería, camándula, socarronería, engaño, disimulo, cautela, política, diplomacia, sagacidad, habilidad, refinamiento, maquiavelismo, jesuitismo, perfidia, hipocresía
◦Antónimos: ingenuidad, torpeza, nobleza, franqueza
Ahora veamos un ejemplo de esta palabra en la Palabra de Dios:
Gen 3:1 Pero la serpiente era astuta, más que todos los animales del campo que Jehová Dios había hecho; la cual dijo a la mujer: ¿Conque Dios os ha dicho: No comáis de todo árbol del huerto?
Esta palabra significa:
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עָרַם arám; raíz prim.; prop. ser (o hacer) estéril; pero usado solo en el sentido der. (mediante la idea tal vez de suavidad) ser astuto, artero (por lo general en sentido peyorativo):-astuta y secretamente, astuto en gran manera, avisado, ser prudente.
En la bíblia, esta palabra siempre se aplica a hombres con intelecto e inteligencia. Nunca se aplica a animales.
Teniendo esto en cuenta, podemos ver que es un gran error traducir la palabra hebrea "chay" en "animales" en Gen 3:1 . La propia traducción debe ser "ser viviente", tal como algunos Eruditos Linguistas han reconocido:
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חַי kjai; de 2421; vivo, con vida; de aquí, crudo (carne viva); fresco (planta, agua, año), fuerte; también (como sustantivo, espec. en el fem. sing. y masc. plur.) vida (o cosa viva), sea lit. o fig.:-animal, bestia, campamento, congregación, corriente, cruda, fiero, grey, hambre, humano, reunión, ser viviente, silvestre, sustento vida, vigor, viviente, vivir, vivo.
Muchos, al leer Gen 3:1 en la RV60, inmediatamente visualizan a "una culebra con cuerdas vocales":
Gen 3:1 Pero la serpiente era astuta, más que todos los animales del campo que Jehová Dios había hecho; la cual dijo a la mujer: ¿Conque Dios os ha dicho: No comáis de todo árbol del huerto?
Veamos otras traducciones donde se aplica el significado "seres vivientes" correctamente:
(AMPLIFICADA) NOW THE serpent was more subtle and crafty than any living creature of the field which the Lord God had made. And he [Satan] said to the woman, Can it really be that God has said, You shall not eat from every tree of the garden?(1)
(Versión Jünemann) (Septuaginta) Pero la serpiente era el más sagaz de todos los vivientes los sobre la tierra, que hizo Señor Dios. Y dijo la serpiente a la mujer: «¿Pues qué? ha dicho Dios: «No comáis, no, de todo leño del paraíso»?
Esta misma palabra que la RV60 traduce "animales" en Gen 3.1, está traducida "seres vivientes" en Ezequiel 1:5:
Eze 1:5 y en medio de ella la figura de cuatro seres vivientes. Y esta era su apariencia: había en ellos semejanza de hombre.
Ciertamente no fue un "animal con sabiduría y astucia malévola" el que engañó y sedujo a Eva. La Escritura misma declara que aquel "astuto" fue Satanás mismo, la serpiente antigua:
Rev 20:2 Y prendió al dragón, la serpiente antigua, que es el diablo y Satanás, y lo ató por mil años;
Ezequiel 28 describe el aspecto hermoso de este querubin caído:
Eze 28:12 Hijo de hombre, levanta endechas sobre el rey de Tiro, y dile: Así ha dicho Jehová el Señor: Tú eras el sello de la perfección, lleno de sabiduría, y acabado de hermosura.
La Escritura también declara que Satanás estuvo en el Edén:
Eze 28:13 En Edén, en el huerto de Dios estuviste; de toda piedra preciosa era tu vestidura; de cornerina, topacio, jaspe, crisólito, berilo y ónice; de zafiro, carbunclo, esmeralda y oro; los primores de tus tamboriles y flautas estuvieron preparados para ti en el día de tu creación.
Este ser hermoso y con astucia engañosa y malévola, quien lleva el título degradante de "serpiente" (por el veneno espiritual que sale de su boca) fue el que engañó y sedujo a Eva...
Gen 3:13 Dijo, pues, Yahveh Dios a la mujer: «¿Por qué lo has hecho?» Y contestó la mujer: «La serpiente me sedujo, y comí.»
2Co 11:3 Y mi temor es que la serpiente que sedujo a Eva con astucia, podría también pervertirles la mente a ustedes, para que dejen de ser sinceros con Cristo.
1Ti 2:14 Y Adam no fué engañado, sino la mujer, siendo seducida, vino á ser envuelta en transgresión:
El que lee, entienda!
Luis Alberto42
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Definamos "astucia" según el Diccionario de la lengua española © 2005 Espasa-Calpe::
astucia
1.f. Sagacidad;
sutileza, habilidad para engañar o evitar el engaño y lograr un objetivo:
llevó el asunto con astucia y consiguió la herencia
2.Ardid, treta, artimaña:
en la fábula se narran las astucias de la zorra.
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mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0in; mso-para-margin-right:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT="]Hoooooooo, ya veo por dónde vienes, pillín, el mismo viejo tema con diferente titulo; te me estás pareciendo a los adventistas con el sábado.<o></o>[/FONT]
a mi se me esta pareciendo a los evangelicos y su fanatismo y emocionalismo
Que post tan raro... en fin, si nos guiamos por esa definicion de astucia, pues hay animales que se hacen los muertos para evitar que se los coman, esa es una "habilidad para engañar y lograr un objetivo"... ¿o no? pero bueno, el resto de tu respuesta es rara y no se a donde lleva
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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> ¿Dijiste sábado?, no, aquí no se está hablando ni se va a hablar del sábado, digo, eso espero.<o></o>
nadie ha mencionado sabado, eso lo dijistes tu. pero tampoco vamos a hablar del fanatismo y emocionalismo de los evangelicos
me he dado cuenta que no presentas argumentos en los debates sino desmeritos a los demas.
cuando aprenderas a debatir en un foro?
el tema era otro y te metistes aqui solo a desmeritar y no te has dado cuenta de la viga enorme que tienen los evangelicos en sus ojos
No es ninguna fantasia de Avatar...
Es LA VERDAD. La serpiente del Edén ES Satanás y no un "animal"
Rev 20:2 Dominó al Dragón, la Serpiente antigua - que es el Diablo y Satanás - y lo encadenó por mil años.
Luis Alberto42
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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Me tranquiza tu respuesta; pero yo aporté ¿Y tu?<o></o>
entre a que no sembraras tu cizaña por medio de tus criticas y menosprecios a otras iglesias.
y si deseo aportar puedo hacerlo ahora o mas aelante cuando considere conveniente, eso es personal
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Estás equivocado Luis Alberto. Satanás si es considerado como animal por Dios, y su sabiduría y astucia también:No es ninguna fantasia de Avatar...
Es LA VERDAD. La serpiente del Edén ES Satanás y no un "animal"
Rev 20:2 Dominó al Dragón, la Serpiente antigua - que es el Diablo y Satanás - y lo encadenó por mil años.
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