Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

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Seguro que se dejaron contagiar por la icar.

Pues como evangelicos se deben contagiar de Cristo... tan presumidos y soberbios que son y ya vez. Promulgaron el dogma "solo la escritura" y se la prohibieron a los negros esclavizados.

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Estados Unidos borrará citas bíblicas incluídas en su armamento durante 30 años (sin duda tambien le copiaron a Constantino), oye ¿porque E.U. pondria citas biblicas en su armamento?, ¿sera que son una estado "teocratico evangelico"?, ¿Conoces a Billy Graham?, el fue asesor Espiritual de la familia Bush, cuando Bush padre en su periodo realizo la famosa guerra de "tormenta del desierto" en Irak en los 90´S

Lee la nota de la relación de Billy Graham mejor conocido como "el papa evangelico de E.U.". http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1627139,00.html

http://www.noticiacristiana.com/sociedad/iglesiaestado/2010/01/estados-unidos-borrara-citas-biblicas-incluidas-en-su-armamento-durante-30-anos.html

(NoticiaCristiana.com).
Hasta hoy, la mayoría de las personas no tenía conocimiento de que en el armamento estadounidense usado por sus soldados y marines en especial en los conflictos bélicos contra Afganistán e Irak tenían inscritas referencias bíblicas.
El comandante del Mando Central de Estados Unidos, el general David Petraeus, encargado de las operaciones militares en Irak y Afganistán, comentó en Washington que “esta es una preocupación seria para mí y otros comandantes en Irak y Afganistán” el hecho de que el armamento enviado a estos soldados y las armas donadas para el entrenamientos del ejército iraquí llevan inscritos pasajes bíblicos tomados del Nuevo Testamento.

Estos pasajes de la Biblia, están ubicados en lugares tales como miras telescópicas y algunas con visión nocturna, que quienes no conocen la biblia, podrían confundirlo con códigos de fabricación del armamento. Citas como JN8:12 refiriéndose a Juan 8:12 “Yo soy la luz del mundo; el que me sigue no andará en tinieblas, sino que tendrá la luz de la vida”, otra mira telescópica tiene 2Cor4:6 “Pues Dios, que dijo que de las tinieblas resplandeciera la luz, es el que ha resplandecido en nuestros corazones, para iluminación del conocimiento de la gloria de Dios en la faz de Cristo”, de esta manera se estaba desvirtuando la Palabra de Dios llevándola a la guerra, atentando contra la vida de otras personas, por lo que George W. Bush ex-presidente de los Estados Unidos tildó las guerras como cruzada a su particular forma de pelear contra el terrorismo, cuando el actual presidente Barack Obama hace mención que la guerra no es contra su religión, el Islam, sino contra Al Qaeda.
La empresa y contratista militar, llamada Trijicon Inc., ha desarrollado esta práctica de colocar los versículos de la Biblia durante unos 30 años y nunca había recibido ninguna queja, sin embargo, ante la actual situación, ha pedido disculpa por la situación, ha anunciado el cese voluntario de dicha práctica en los productos que suministra al Ejército de estados Unidos y se ha comprometido a reenviar 100 nuevos cargamentos de rifles, debido a que entre el ejército y los marines se encuentran distribuidos más de 300.000 de ellos.
Con estas citas en el aramamento, daba la impresión de que cada vez que un soldado o marine las utilizaba contra un “enemigo” en Irak o Afganistán, Dios también estaría apuntando.
“Nuestra decisión de ofrecer la retirada voluntariamente es prudente y apropiada”, afirmó en un comunicado el presidente de la empresa, Stephen Bindon, ya que tampoco están dispuestos a perder contratos multimillonarios a causa de referencias bíblicas.
Fuente: lasexta.com
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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Quedó demostrado que no soy ningún mentiroso , esas Biblias no tuvieron difusión y estaba prohibida la lectura que no fuera en latín , además la lectura en público por consiguiente reducida al clero y además hay edictos de reyes católicos que se adhirieron a la prohibición –La biblia del Oso fue la única que rompía el cerco y era de un monje católico Casiodoro de Reina pasado a las filas protestantes y perseguido por la inquisición se refugió en Inglaterra .


 
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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Quedó demostrado que no soy ningún mentiroso , esas Biblias no tuvieron difusión y estaba prohibida la lectura que no fuera en latín , además la lectura en público por consiguiente reducida al clero y además hay edictos de reyes católicos que se adhirieron a la prohibición –La biblia del Oso fue la única que rompía el cerco y era de un monje católico Casiodoro de Reina pasado a las filas protestantes y perseguido por la inquisición se refugió en Inglaterra .



Y el clero de la reforma y los burgeses evangelicos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a los pobres y marginados de europa.

Y los ingleses evangelicos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a los negros que esclavizaron en Africa.

Los evangelicos nortemaericanos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a las mujeres y a los negros de norteamerica.

asi fue.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Y el clero de la reforma y los burgeses evangelicos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a los pobres y marginados de europa.

Y los ingleses evangelicos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a los negros que esclavizaron en Africa.

Los evangelicos nortemaericanos prohibieron la lectura de la biblia a las mujeres y a los negros de norteamerica.

asi fue.

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Casos aislados , no generalizado como no ocurrió en la Iglesia Católica con la prohibición de la lectura en toda Europa y que los Reyes confirmaron con edictos que se conocen y abarcaron varios siglos de la humanidad .
Nadie en su sano juicio pueda desconocer la obra por los derechos civiles de los grandes evangelistas de color como Martin Luther King, Jr o que los grupos de color de Estados Unidos desde el siglo XIX forman parte de la gran familia evangélica bautista como la pentecostal .
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Casos aislados, no generalizado como no ocurrió en la Iglesia Católica con la prohibición de la lectura en toda Europa y que los Reyes confirmaron con edictos que se conocen y abarcaron varios siglos de la humanidad.
No señor, no fue en Toda Europa, fue en todo el mundo.

La prohibición de leer Biblias protestantes o n aprobadas aplica a todo el mundo, no solo a Europa. Recuerde que nosotros sí somos UNA iglesia

Nadie en su sano juicio pueda desconocer la obra por los derechos civiles de los grandes evangelistas de color como Martin Luther King, Jr o que los grupos de color de Estados Unidos desde el siglo XIX forman parte de la gran familia evangélica bautista como la pentecostal
O de los evangelizadores católicos en todo el mundo, y eso mucho antes de la existencia de los bautistas opnetecostales.

Esas patadas de ahogado no contribuyen en nada al tema. Nada tienen que ver las luchas civiles del siglo XX contrarestado a los 20 siglos de evangelización de la Iglesia Católica.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

No señor, no fue en Toda Europa, fue en todo el mundo.

La prohibición de leer Biblias protestantes o n aprobadas aplica a todo el mundo, no solo a Europa. Recuerde que nosotros sí somos UNA iglesia


O de los evangelizadores católicos en todo el mundo, y eso mucho antes de la existencia de los bautistas opnetecostales.

Esas patadas de ahogado no contribuyen en nada al tema. Nada tienen que ver las luchas civiles del siglo XX contrarestado a los 20 siglos de evangelización de la Iglesia Católica.

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QFormat="true" Name="TOC Heading"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Tabla normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Por sus frutos los conocerás y tengo varias Biblias regaladas o compradas a bajo precio gracias a las Iglesias Evangélicas y no por la Iglesia Católica .
Lo escribe un ex-católico que en su tiempo fue comprometido con su fe hasta que conocí la verdad del evangelio con su lectura y que me mentían en todo .
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Por sus frutos los conocerás y tengo varias Biblias regaladas o compradas a bajo precio gracias a las Iglesias Evangélicas y no por la Iglesia Católica .
Lo escribe un ex-católico que en su tiempo fue comprometido con su fe hasta que conocí la verdad del evangelio con su lectura y que me mentían en todo .
No te compliques tanto, que tienes biblia gracias a la Iglesia Católica.

Por cierto, la última biblia que cmpré me costó $7 dólares. Muy bajo precio.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

No te compliques tanto, que tienes biblia gracias a la Iglesia Católica.

Por cierto, la última biblia que cmpré me costó $7 dólares. Muy bajo precio.

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Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Cuando la leas en castellano recuerda que está basada en la Reina -Valera de 1569 y que se convirtieron al protestantismo.

Sabes perfectamente que no es verdad, porque hasta el mismo Calvino la rechazó por mal hecha.

Además, 300 años antes ya estaba la Alfonsina
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Sabes perfectamente que no es verdad, porque hasta el mismo Calvino la rechazó por mal hecha.

Además, 300 años antes ya estaba la Alfonsina

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Yo la leo y todos mis hermanos también y puedo decirte que son muy pocos los errores de traducción , nadie que se precie de estudiante de la Biblia podría desecharla sino que es la primera fuente en español y gracias a otras traducciones podemos compararla aún así por preferencia La Reina Valera de 1960 , la más difundida es mi primera Biblia para todo pero de ninguna manera desecho la gran bendición de tener los originales y los diccionarios como la referencia de otras Biblias .
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Yo la leo y todos mis hermanos también y puedo decirte que son muy pocos los errores de traducción , nadie que se precie de estudiante de la Biblia podría desecharla sino que es la primera fuente en español y gracias a otras traducciones podemos compararla aún así por preferencia La Reina Valera de 1960 , la más difundida es mi primera Biblia para todo pero de ninguna manera desecho la gran bendición de tener los originales y los diccionarios como la referencia de otras Biblias .

No, no es la primera fuente en Español, eso es falso.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

No, no es la primera fuente en Español, eso es falso.

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Para los evangélicos si , incluyo a los Adventistas y a los Testigos de Jehová que en esta están libres de toda acusación porque son grandes difusores de la Biblia y la Reina Valera de 1960 está o estuvo dentro de sus fuentes como la Palabra de Dios en español.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Lo mas graciosos es que un catolico nos diga que los protestantes prohibieron la biblñia,que bufon es este catolico. Encima dice que la sola scriptura nos la inventamos, pobre diabloeste que poco o nada conoce sobrte este tema.

Dios tenga misericordia de este sujeto.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Para los evangélicos si , incluyo a los Adventistas y a los Testigos de Jehová que en esta están libres de toda acusación porque son grandes difusores de la Biblia y la Reina Valera de 1960 está o estuvo dentro de sus fuentes como la Palabra de Dios en español.

Pues tampoco para ellos, porque es cuestión histórica, no de gustos y preferencias.


Y todas, absolutamente todas las biblias, tiene su origen en la Biblia de la Iglesia Católica. Eso también es cosa de historia y de mucha teología.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Pues tampoco para ellos, porque es cuestión histórica, no de gustos y preferencias.


Y todas, absolutamente todas las biblias, tiene su origen en la Biblia de la Iglesia Católica. Eso también es cosa de historia y de mucha teología.

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1"/> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> Mientras existan los originales en griego que la Biblia sea católica es una mentira pero es verdad que Reina uso la Biblia en Latín para realizar la Biblia del Oso pero es compatible con los originales en griego por lo tanto es solo un paso para llegar a la verdad , que son los originales y ser poseedor de algunos de estos manuscritos no hace a la Iglesia Católica autora de ellos , que son anteriores a la formación de la Iglesia Católica por Constantino .
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1"/> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> Mientras existan los originales en griego que la Biblia sea católica es una mentira pero es verdad que Reina uso la Biblia en Latín para realizar la Biblia del Oso pero es compatible con los originales en griego por lo tanto es solo un paso para llegar a la verdad , que son los originales y ser poseedor de algunos de estos manuscritos no hace a la Iglesia Católica autora de ellos , que son anteriores a la formación de la Iglesia Católica por Constantino .

Pues existen miles de textos griegos antiguos, todos son inspirados??

La biblia es católica, porque fue la iglesia católica quien te dijo que era Palabra de Dios.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Lo mas graciosos es que un catolico nos diga que los protestantes prohibieron la biblñia,que bufon es este catolico. Encima dice que la sola scriptura nos la inventamos, pobre diabloeste que poco o nada conoce sobrte este tema.

Dios tenga misericordia de este sujeto.

Si invitaron el dogma de la sola escritura... ninguna Iglesia oriental historica lo tiene, ni la de Jerusalen, Antioquia, Copta, Siria, Griega ó con sede en Roma lo tiene.

Lutero se levanto en contra de los concilios catolicos justificandose en la autoridad de la sola escritura. Después ya con la reforma Lutero intento unificar su movimiento y tuvo que realizar varios tratados para ordenar sus cultos, muchos reformadores estuvieron a su favor y otros no. En ese inter es cuando la reforma tambien se convierte en un pleito de poder politico, dado el pensamiento teocratico de Europa, de ahi veras que el clero de la reforma y los reyes de la reforma no dejaran que los pobres lean las sagradas escrituras.

Lee las cartas filosóficas de Voltiere donde se cita la corrupción evangélica en Inglaterra.
 
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Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="19" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Emphasis"/> <w:LsdException 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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Casos aislados , no generalizado como no ocurrió en la Iglesia Católica con la prohibición de la lectura en toda Europa y que los Reyes confirmaron con edictos que se conocen y abarcaron varios siglos de la humanidad .
Nadie en su sano juicio pueda desconocer la obra por los derechos civiles de los grandes evangelistas de color como Martin Luther King, Jr o que los grupos de color de Estados Unidos desde el siglo XIX forman parte de la gran familia evangélica bautista como la pentecostal .

No, no son casos aislados. En Norteamerica las mujeres le levantaron contra los pastores porque les prohibian leer la biblia, de ahi nacera un movimiento grande. Martin Luther King es un fruto terminado de una raiz de racismo que tuvo su origen en una prohibición de los evangelicos hacia la lectura de las sagradas escrituras para los negros y sus derechos como seres humanos. Los evangélicos de Norteamérica no querían que los negros leyeran la biblia, porque los querían tener como esclavos.
 
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mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Casos aislados , no generalizado como no ocurrió en la Iglesia Católica con la prohibición de la lectura en toda Europa y que los Reyes confirmaron con edictos que se conocen y abarcaron varios siglos de la humanidad .
Nadie en su sano juicio pueda desconocer la obra por los derechos civiles de los grandes evangelistas de color como Martin Luther King, Jr o que los grupos de color de Estados Unidos desde el siglo XIX forman parte de la gran familia evangélica bautista como la pentecostal .

Los evangélicos que llegaron a Norteamérica se establecieron y oficiaron su primer culto en Carolina del Norte donde fueron bien recibidos por los indios nativos en ese entonces paganos. Despues los evangélicos esclavizaron a los indios.
 
Re: Los protestantes prohibieron la lectura de la biblia

Si invitaron el dogma de la sola escritura... ninguna Iglesia oriental historica lo tiene, ni la de Jerusalen, Antioquia, Copta, Siria, Griega ó con sede en Roma lo tiene.

Lutero se levanto en contra de los concilios catolicos justificandose en la autoridad de la sola escritura. Después ya con la reforma Lutero intento unificar su movimiento y tuvo que realizar varios tratados para ordenar sus cultos, muchos reformadores estuvieron a su favor y otros no. En ese inter es cuando la reforma tambien se convierte en un pleito de poder politico, dado el pensamiento teocratico de Europa, de ahi veras que el clero de la reforma y los reyes de la reforma no dejaran que los pobres lean las sagradas escrituras.

Lee las cartas filosóficas de Voltiere donde se cita la corrupción evangélica en Inglaterra.

Bobo Jesus fue el que se baso en la sola scriptura y no me sorprenderia que si estaria en nuestros dias hiciera lo mismo.

Que se pueda citar de algun librucho aporcifo algo porque eso conocen algunos no es malo, pero tampoco significa quye todo lo que este en un apocrifo sea correcto. Hay cosas buenas en los libros de los testigos, mormones adventistas pero no todo, asi Jesus pudo haber citado algunas palabras de algunos apocrifos pero mas nada.

aunque todavia es discutible si Jesi cito de algun libro apocrifo.

El se baso en un canon que incluia solo desde Genesis hasta 2 Cronicas.