Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

28 Mayo 2011
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It turns out that chimps do show selfless behavior

Revised testing procedures show that, like humans, they can be altruistic

By Charles Q. Choi
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Chimpanzees, long considered reluctant to share, apparently can display selfless tendencies, revealing one more key way our closest living relatives are like humans, scientists find.

These findings could shed light on the evolution of altruism in humans, showing that selflessness is less of an anomaly among our relatives than before suggested, researchers added.

In recent years, research has revealed just how much chimpanzees have in common with us. They can hunt with spears, play with improvised dolls and mourn their dead.

However, past experiments had suggested that chimps were loath to share, being what scientists had classified as antisocially selfish instead of pro-socially altruistic. This led to a widely held belief that human altruism evolved only after humans split from their ape cousins about 6 million years ago.

"For the past decade we have lived through the curious situation — frustrating for many chimpanzee fieldworkers and observers — that chimps are well known for spontaneous acts of altruism, yet have not shown the same tendencies in well-controlled experiments," said researcher Frans de Waal, a primatologist at Emory University in Atlanta.

It turns out this past failure to find such altruistic behavior might have been due to the experiments on the chimpanzees themselves.

"Most earlier studies had presented the apes with a complex apparatus that helped them deliver food to themselves or others, often so complicated that the experiments tested tool skills rather than social tendencies," de Waal told LiveScience. "Ours is the first study that uses no such apparatus at all."

In addition to using complex food-delivery systems, past experiments often placed the chimpanzees so far apart that they might not have realized how their actions benefited others.

Simple tests of altruism
In these new, simplified experiments, two apes were housed next to each other with a screen through which they could see each other. Then, one chimpanzee had to choose between two differently colored tokens from a bin, one of which represented a pro-social option, the other a selfish option. The pro-social option would cause both chimpanzees to receive a piece of banana wrapped in paper. (The paper made a loud noise upon removal, helping chimps to know that another was benefiting from his actions.) The selfish option only rewarded the ape who made the choice.

In a study with seven adult female chimps placed into various pairs, the scientists found all the apes showed a definite preference for the pro-social option.

"For me, the most important finding is that like us, chimpanzees take into account the needs and wishes of others," researcher Victoria Horner, a comparative psychologist at Emory University, told LiveScience.

"The idea that chimps are indifferent to the welfare of others can now hopefully be put to rest," de Waal said.

The chimpanzees behaved especially altruistically toward partners who either patiently waited or gently reminded them that they were there by drawing attention to themselves. They were less likely to reward partners who exerted pressure by making a fuss, begging persistently or spitting water at them.

"This is interesting because there has been a long-standing view that the chimpanzees only share food under pressure," Horner said. "Our results suggest the opposite — chimpanzees share when there is no to little pressure, but direct pressure or threats reduce sharing, possibly due to negative emotions."

Evolution of altruism

The researchers say these findings, along with studies showing other primate species with similar tendencies, suggest pro-sociality may have deeper evolutionary origins than previously thought.

Past research had shown that chimpanzees were capable of altruistically providing assistance. "Our results are subtly different," Horner said. "When you provide assistance, it's really a test between doing something or nothing. In our study, the chimps really have three choices — they can do nothing, they can be pro-social or they can be selfish."

The current studies were conducted with chimpanzees of all one sex to simplify its design, as including both sexes would have added complex questions of why the chimps might or might not have shared.

"Many anecdotal reports of altruism in both the wild and captivity involve females, but that's not to say that males aren't also altruistic," Horner said. Also, "researchers may be unintentionally focusing more on female altruism because they expect to see it more in females than males."

In addition, "males may show their pro-social side in different contexts," she added. "For example, reports from the wild indicate that female chimpanzees use tools more frequently than males, but our previous research with captive chimpanzees has shown that males are just as good as females at tool use. It's just that males in the wild have other priorities, such as border patrols and hunting, so that we don't see their tool-using abilities as frequently as we do with females. The same may be true of male pro-sociality."

"Gender differences would be an interesting study for future research," Horner concluded.

Horner and de Waal detailed their findings online Aug. 8 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Les presento la historia de Oliver. Interesantísimo.

 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Este es mas mono :)


ahora , podrías decir que es lo que quieres probar con todos tus copy paste. Dale intenta argumentar algo hoja...
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Este es mas mono :)


ahora , podrías decir que es lo que quieres probar con todos tus copy paste. Dale intenta argumentar algo hoja...

A mi me parece muy interesante que los chimpancés y los seres humanos seamos altruístas. Resalta mucho más el vínculo aparente entre las dos especies. ¿Y a usted que le parece?
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas




No debería ser tan corto de vista y de entendimiento, propio de un chimpance (quizas usted provenga de alguna ancestral familia de ellos)


Pruebe a enviarles a predicar el evangelio, haber si somos igualitos.

 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

A mi me parece muy interesante que los chimpancés y los seres humanos seamos altruístas. Resalta mucho más el vínculo aparente entre las dos especies. ¿Y a usted que le parece?

cuidado y no vaya a ser Ud. pariente de mi perrita que se rescato de la calle a otra sarnosa y la trajo de comer a su plato.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Social Cooperation and Altruism

There is an extensive system of nonparental aid at the communal brown hyena den. Nonparental helping behavior includes communal suckling, food provisioning, den maintenance, defense against predation, play, and even adoption of orphans (Owens & Owens 1984b). During the first three to four months of their development, brown hyena cubs are frequently visited by their mother, who suckles the cubs (Mills 1983a). As mentioned earlier, the mother moves the cubs to the communal den during the fourth month. After moving the cubs the mother begins to visit them less and less often, staying away on foraging trips for several days (Mills 1983a, Owens & Owens 1979b). Nonparental helping enables her to do this.

When the mother hyena is away from the den other female hyenas will suckle her cubs. This has been observed in all brown hyena clans (Mills 1983a, Owens & Owens 1979b, Owens & Owens 1984b, Mills 1982, Owens & Owens 1996). All lactating females in have been observed to suckle other femalesâ offspring, though they show a preference for their own cubs (Owens & Owens 1979b, Owens & Owens 1984b). In addition, most group members return to the den with food intended solely for the cubs, including closely related males (r=1/4 or more), subadults males and females, and dominant males in southern Kalahari clans (Mills 1983a, Mills 1982). However, immigrant adult males in central Kalahari clans were never observed to provision young (Owens & Owens 1984b). Only individuals genetically related to the hyena cubs have been observed to provision food.

Both authors familiar with the brown hyena suggest that this nonparental aid is a form of kin altruism that enhances the inclusive fitness of the individuals performing the altruistic act (Owens & Owens 1984b, Mills 1983a). Because most individuals in the brown hyena clan are genetically related, nonparental aid will almost always benefit a family member. Interestingly, the dominant adult male of southern Kalahari brown hyena clans, who is usually a grown natal male, provides food regularly to cubs, while the dominant immigrant adult males in central Kalahari clans have never been observed to provide nonparental aid other than group protection (Owens & Owens 1996, Owens & Owens 1984b). There are significant benefits for females who provide nonparental aid. Because females will usually eventually breed and have cubs, it is in their best interest to do all they can to increase the clan size so that those individuals will one day help her and her offspring (Owens & Owens 1984b).

In contrast to the brown hyena, female spotted hyenas do not suckle other femalesâ young, even though the spotted hyena lives in groups of closely related female matrilines (Frank 1986b). However, it is possible that spotted hyenas exhibit social cooperation and possibly even kin selection. It has been observed that the dominant female will allow other femalesâ cubs to feed next to her at a kill (Frank 1986b). Because this female controls who has access to food, it is likely that she is allowing the cubs of kin to feed. However, the author was unable to ascertain the identity of the other cubs, so it is not possible to determine whether or not this behavior is an example of kin altruism.
http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/Behavior/Spring2001/Osgood/osgood.html

Interesante........ Ahora solo falta concluir como se resalta el vínculo entre las dos especies. sí señor!
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Ajá...

Mi perro es fiel, más fiel que el esposo de la vecina; sin embargo, eso no lo convierte en humano.
Mi gato hace más gracias que un chimpancé.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Psh , extrañamente estoy de acuerdo aqui con la mayoria.

El altruismo no es algo que solo se de en humanos y chimpances. Los perros , otro tipo de simios , delfines , ( a veces, si estan de muyyyy buen humor xD ) los gatos y tantas otras especies , sobre todo obviamente de mamiferos son capaces de ser altruistas.

`P.D: Que bonito lo que hizo tu perrita xDDD.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Psh , extrañamente estoy de acuerdo aqui con la mayoria.

El altruismo no es algo que solo se de en humanos y chimpances. Los perros , otro tipo de simios , delfines , ( a veces, si estan de muyyyy buen humor xD ) los gatos y tantas otras especies , sobre todo obviamente de mamiferos son capaces de ser altruistas.

`P.D: Que bonito lo que hizo tu perrita xDDD.

La perrita fue a buscarme. cuando llegamos donde estaba la callejera, le acerco su plato de comida con el hocico. El pobre animal parecía un chupacabras, no tenía pelo y apestaba. Me puse unos guantes plásticos y la bañe pero seguia apestando. Preferí una consulta a domicilio del veterinario antes que meterla al carro. La inyectamos ....... finalmente recupero. Tiene ya 3 años.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

jejejej, concuerdo con la mayoria ,ejje ,creo que as visto la ultima pelicula del planeta de los simios
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Los gatos también son altruistas entre ellos.

Con cámaras infrarrojas se ha observado un establo lleno de gatos, las madres amamantan las crias de otras madres, mientras estas van de caceria y viceversa.

Los delfines son bien conocidos por su altruismo interespecie, llegando a salvar seres humanos de ahogarse en el mar.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Psh , extrañamente estoy de acuerdo aqui con la mayoria.

El altruismo no es algo que solo se de en humanos y chimpances. Los perros , otro tipo de simios , delfines , ( a veces, si estan de muyyyy buen humor xD ) los gatos y tantas otras especies , sobre todo obviamente de mamiferos son capaces de ser altruistas.

`P.D: Que bonito lo que hizo tu perrita xDDD.



Vaya esta si que es buena así que los animales hacen buenas obras ..... jajajaj ya es lo que me faltaba por oir.Pues ni que conocieran la ley desdeluego no la conocen pero hemos sido hechos por el mismo Hacedor y este Hacedor nos hizo en su tiempo señores de la creación por encima de los animales muy simpaticos ellos.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

La verdad no lei completo el post, pero si se resume en que los chimpances, perros, gatos, etc. son tan altruistas como un ser humano, a mi me da mucho gusto saberlo, pues entonces esto confirma que la salvacion de ninguna manera podria ser por obras... Por eso es por fe, porque solo los seres pensantes, tienen la capacidad de confiar en alguien que conocemos aun sin verlo...
Todo se resume en una frase reveladora: Los ANIMALES no se salvan porque LOS ANIMALES no pueden tener fe!

NO se ustedes que opinen....
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

La verdad no lei completo el post, pero si se resume en que los chimpances, perros, gatos, etc. son tan altruistas como un ser humano, a mi me da mucho gusto saberlo, pues entonces esto confirma que la salvacion de ninguna manera podria ser por obras... Por eso es por fe, porque solo los seres pensantes, tienen la capacidad de confiar en alguien que conocemos aun sin verlo...
Todo se resume en una frase reveladora: Los ANIMALES no se salvan porque LOS ANIMALES no pueden tener fe!

NO se ustedes que opinen....

LA DIFERENCIA ENTRE UN SER PENSANTE Y UN ANIMAL NO ES EL AMOR; EL ALTRUISMO; LA OBEDIENCIA; SINO LA FE!!!
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas




No debería ser tan corto de vista y de entendimiento, propio de un chimpance (quizas usted provenga de alguna ancestral familia de ellos)


Pruebe a enviarles a predicar el evangelio, haber si somos igualitos.


Yo abrí este tema para debatir, no para atacar a las personas con ad hominem.
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

cuidado y no vaya a ser Ud. pariente de mi perrita que se rescato de la calle a otra sarnosa y la trajo de comer a su plato.

Uff, caramba! ¿Es que aquí los cristianos no saben debatir con argumentos? Lo único que hacen es atacar personalmente al forista!
 
Re: Los chimpancés, igual que los seres humanos, son altruístas

Psh , extrañamente estoy de acuerdo aqui con la mayoria.

El altruismo no es algo que solo se de en humanos y chimpances. Los perros , otro tipo de simios , delfines , ( a veces, si estan de muyyyy buen humor xD ) los gatos y tantas otras especies , sobre todo obviamente de mamiferos son capaces de ser altruistas.

`P.D: Que bonito lo que hizo tu perrita xDDD.

Precisamente eso nos da la razón a los evolucionistas. Hay una relación evolutiva en eso que acabas de mencionar.