El don de hablar en lenguas.

Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

De donde saco que Cristo conocia todas las lenguas, son cuestiones de mi imaginacion, pero como ustedes estan contra las imagenes, aunque al parecer nada mas se le vio hablar en una sola.

Sobre el apostol ...............Doy gracias a Dios porque hablo las lenguas de todos vosotros


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Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

Apreciado estimador de mi persona dagoberto,porque no te dejas de tanto bla,bla y nos pones un ejemplo de oracion en lengua angelical biblico? dime si Dios necesita que le hablen en lenguas angelicales? o muestranos algun angel de Dios hablando ese estupido galimatias que usais en la pentecostal de chile.
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

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Tú lo que haces es poner esa frase inconclusa, y agregarle de tu imaginación. Así nunca vas a conocer la verdad de las cosas que están escritas. [/FONT]

El contexto:

Es mejor el que profetiza que el que habla lenguas.
El que habla la lengua de todos de que le vale
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

El contexto:

Es mejor el que profetiza que el que habla lenguas.
El que habla la lengua de todos de que le vale

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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]¿Qué?[/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot]13[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Por lo cual, el que habla en lengua, pida en oración poder interpretarla.<sup>[FONT=&quot] 14[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque si yo oro en lengua, mi espíritu ora, pero mi entendimiento queda sin fruto.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 15[/FONT]</sup>[/FONT][FONT=&quot]¿Qué, pues? Oraré con el espíritu, pero oraré también con el entendimiento; cantaré con el espíritu, pero cantaré también con el entendimiento...[/FONT]

¿Qué es lo que sucede cuando se habla en lengua? El espíritu ora, pero el entendimiento del que habla en lengua queda sin fruto, es decir, no entiende lo que habla.

...<sup> 18</sup>Doy gracias a Dios que hablo en lenguas más que todos vosotros; [aunque no entiendo lo que hablo]<sup></sup>
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<sup>19</sup>pero en la iglesia prefiero hablar cinco palabras con mi entendimiento,[en un lenguaje que entienda yo y los que me escuchan] para enseñar también a otros, que diez mil palabras en lengua [que nadie entiende, ni yo que las hablo]



El contexto inmediato está diciendo claramente, que las lenguas que habla Pablo, no son lenguajes conocidos por él.
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Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

La versión Reina Valera de 1960 traduce de forma confusa y engañosa el verso 7. Esa versión dice que a cada uno le es dada la manifestación del espíritu para provecho, con esa traducción parece decir que los dones espirituales fueron dados para provecho o beneficio propio, de uno mismo, sin embargo eso es falso, ¡nada más lejos de la realidad!, el resto de traducciones bíblicas lo traducen de esta manera o de forma parecida; "A cada uno se le da una manifestación especial del Espíritu para el bien de los demás." (NVI). ¡Los dones del espíritu no fueron dados jamás para la edificacion de uno mismo, sino para el bien de los demás; concretamente el don de lenguas jamás fue dado para la edificación de uno mismo, ni de la Iglesia tampoco, sino que el don de lenguas fue utilizado como señal a los incrédulos (1Co.14:22), esto lo explicaré más adelante, y es algo asombroso, ya que pulveriza la doctrina falsa pentecostal, la cual enseña que el don de lenguas es para la edificación de los creyentes. ¡Ni siquiera los pentecostales y carismáticos hablan el verdadero don de lenguas!, ellos sencillamente están utilizando un falso don de lenguas, una jerga carnal,estúpida y diabólica
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]¿Qué?[/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot]13[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Por lo cual, el que habla en lengua, pida en oración poder interpretarla.<sup>[FONT=&quot] 14[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque si yo oro en lengua, mi espíritu ora, pero mi entendimiento queda sin fruto.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 15[/FONT]</sup>[/FONT][FONT=&quot]¿Qué, pues? Oraré con el espíritu, pero oraré también con el entendimiento; cantaré con el espíritu, pero cantaré también con el entendimiento...[/FONT]

¿Qué es lo que sucede cuando se habla en lengua? El espíritu ora, pero el entendimiento del que habla en lengua queda sin fruto, es decir, no entiende lo que habla.

...<sup> 18</sup>Doy gracias a Dios que hablo en lenguas más que todos vosotros; [aunque no entiendo lo que hablo]<sup></sup>
<sup> </sup>
<sup>19</sup>pero en la iglesia prefiero hablar cinco palabras con mi entendimiento,[en un lenguaje que entienda yo y los que me escuchan] para enseñar también a otros, que diez mil palabras en lengua [que nadie entiende, ni yo que las hablo]



El contexto inmediato está diciendo claramente, que las lenguas que habla Pablo, no son lenguajes conocidos por él.
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Dios les dio el don de las lenguas para que no sepan ni ellos mismos de lo que hablan
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

Estimado Luis

Los dones de Dios NO SE ENCUENTRAN EN EL MUNDO.

¿Cual sería la gracia de contar con un "don de Dios", si ese supuesto "don" lo tiene el mundo y en mejores condiciones que uno???

Si hablar Inglés o francés, es un "don de Dios",... yo voy a una Universidad y aprendo idiomas y... ¿ya tengo dones de Dios?

Saludos


1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


Dagoberto,

¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?


Pero SI podemos prohibir que hablen en idiomas extrangeros, si es que no hay un traductor...


Luis Alberto42
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

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El don de lengua no tiene absolutamente nada que ver, ni con la salvación, ni con la predicación del evangelio.[/FONT]

solo te puedo decir

jamalajasaya, tumbarter al piso y quitarte los diezmos levitas
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

Originalmente enviado por Cascabeliando
Dios les dio el don de las lenguas para que no sepan ni ellos mismos de lo que hablanjajajajajajaja


1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.



Y según algunos, encima les dijo que NO PROHÍBAN que hablen cosas que ni ellos mismos entienden!


"misterios" a Dios en "una lengua ángelical ininteligible" "sonidos raros y extraños"....


Y yo que pensaba que Dios es un Dios de.....................CLARIDAD no de CONFUSIÓN (BABEL, como la torre de Babel..."sakalabasuka, labasukasaka")


Bendiciones a ti manuel.


Luis Alberto42
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


Dagoberto,

¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?


Pero SI podemos prohibir que hablen en idiomas extrangeros, si es que no hay un traductor...


Luis Alberto42


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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Nop, nada de idiomas extranjeros, el don de lenguas no es ni hablar ingles ni chino, ni árabe, ni ningún otro idioma conocido por el hombre; el don de lengua es un lenguaje ininteligible incomprensible para el hombre, por esto es necesario que alguien en la iglesia tenga el don de interpretar, (no de traducir, sino de interpretar) lo que se dice en lengua.[/FONT]
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<sup>13</sup>Por lo cual, el que habla en lengua, pida en oración poder interpretarla. [FONT=&quot]13[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Δι[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ὸ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ὁ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] λαλ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῶ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ν γλώσσ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῃ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] προσευχέσθω [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ἵ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]να διερμηνεύ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῃ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot]<sup>[FONT=&quot][1][/FONT]</sup>[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]




[FONT=&quot]διερμηνεύω[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 1 aor. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]διερμήνευσα[/FONT][FONT=&quot] (B-D-F §67, 2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]①[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to translate from one language to another, translate (Polyb. 3, 22, 3; UPZ 162 V, 4 [117 b.c.]; 2 Macc 1:36; EpArist 15, 308; 310; Philo, Poster. Cai. 1, Deus Imm. 144, Migr. Abr. 12; 73) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ταβιθά, ἣ διερμηνευομένη λέγεται Δορκάς[/FONT][FONT=&quot] T. which, translated, means Dorcas [=gazelle] Ac 9:36.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]②[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to clarify someth. so as to make it understandable, explain, interpret (Philod., Rhet. I 84 S. as [/FONT][FONT=&quot]διερμηνεῖσθαι[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; Philo, Op. M. 31; GrBar 11:7) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]τὶ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]someth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] ecstatic speech 1 Cor 12:30; 14:5, 13, 27 (mng. 1 is also prob. here); the mng. of prophecies Lk 24:27. Pass., of the holy scriptures Ac 18:6 D.—DELG s.v. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ἑ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ρμηνεύς[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]M-M. TW. Spicq.[/FONT]
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Para traducir de un idioma conocido a otro, se requiere tener conocimiento exacto de los dos idiomas. El conocer idiomas sin una instrucción formal en una escuela, NO es un don del Espíritu; el don del Espíritu es interpretar el mensaje que se da en lenguaje ininteligible. Por ejemplo, algo parecido a lo siguiente, no se puede traducir, pero si se puede interpretar. Dagunve tarwe rade unb sedirchbri grofirum pade. Dije algo parecido a esto, pues el lenguaje ininteligible no se puede escribir.

El don de lengua no es para el beneficio de la congregación, sino para beneficio del que habla. El que habla en lengua no habla a los hombres; él puede hablar en lengua y no interpretar nada; su entendimiento queda sin fruto (no entiende nada de lo que dijo) pero él es edificado.


<sup>[FONT=&quot]2[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque el que habla en lengua no habla a los hombres, sino a Dios; pues nadie le entiende el mensaje, aunque por el Espíritu habla misterios.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 3[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Pero el que profetiza habla a los hombres para edificación, exhortación y consolación.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 4[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]El que habla en lengua, a sí mismo se edifica; pero el que profetiza, edifica a la iglesia.[/FONT]


<hr align="left" width="33%" size="1"> <sup><sup>[FONT=&quot][1][/FONT]</sup></sup>Aland, B., Aland, K., Black, M., Martini, C. M., Metzger, B. M., & Wikgren, A. 1993, c1979. The Greek New Testament (4th ed.) (464). United Bible Societies: Federal Republic of Germany

<sup><sup>[FONT=&quot][2][/FONT]</sup></sup>Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. 2000. A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature. "Based on Walter Bauer's Griechisch-deutsches Wr[FONT=&quot]̲[/FONT]terbuch zu den Schriften des Neuen Testaments und der frhchristlichen [sic] Literatur, sixth edition, ed. Kurt Aland and Barbara Aland, with Viktor Reichmann and on previous English editions by W.F. Arndt, F.W. Gingrich, and F.W. Danker." (3rd ed.) (244). University of Chicago Press: Chicago
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


Dagoberto,


¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?



Luis Alberto42
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


Dagoberto,


¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?



Luis Alberto42


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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Nop, nada de idiomas extranjeros, el don de lenguas no es ni hablar ingles ni chino, ni árabe, ni ningún otro idioma conocido por el hombre; el don de lengua es un lenguaje ininteligible incomprensible para el hombre, por esto es necesario que alguien en la iglesia tenga el don de interpretar, (no de traducir, sino de interpretar) lo que se dice en lengua.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
<sup>13</sup>Por lo cual, el que habla en lengua, pida en oración poder interpretarla. [FONT=&quot]13[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Δι[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ὸ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ὁ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] λαλ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῶ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ν γλώσσ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῃ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] προσευχέσθω [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ἵ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]να διερμηνεύ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ῃ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot]<sup>[FONT=&quot][1][/FONT]</sup>[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]




[FONT=&quot]διερμηνεύω[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 1 aor. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]διερμήνευσα[/FONT][FONT=&quot] (B-D-F §67, 2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]①[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to translate from one language to another, translate (Polyb. 3, 22, 3; UPZ 162 V, 4 [117 b.c.]; 2 Macc 1:36; EpArist 15, 308; 310; Philo, Poster. Cai. 1, Deus Imm. 144, Migr. Abr. 12; 73) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ταβιθά, ἣ διερμηνευομένη λέγεται Δορκάς[/FONT][FONT=&quot] T. which, translated, means Dorcas [=gazelle] Ac 9:36.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]②[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to clarify someth. so as to make it understandable, explain, interpret (Philod., Rhet. I 84 S. as [/FONT][FONT=&quot]διερμηνεῖσθαι[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; Philo, Op. M. 31; GrBar 11:7) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]τὶ[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]someth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] ecstatic speech 1 Cor 12:30; 14:5, 13, 27 (mng. 1 is also prob. here); the mng. of prophecies Lk 24:27. Pass., of the holy scriptures Ac 18:6 D.—DELG s.v. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]ἑ[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ρμηνεύς[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]M-M. TW. Spicq.[/FONT]
<sup>[FONT=&quot]<sup>[FONT=&quot][2][/FONT]</sup>[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]




Para traducir de un idioma conocido a otro, se requiere tener conocimiento exacto de los dos idiomas. El conocer idiomas sin una instrucción formal en una escuela, NO es un don del Espíritu; el don del Espíritu es interpretar el mensaje que se da en lenguaje ininteligible. Por ejemplo, algo parecido a lo siguiente, no se puede traducir, pero si se puede interpretar. Dagunve tarwe rade unb sedirchbri grofirum pade. Dije algo parecido a esto, pues el lenguaje ininteligible no se puede escribir.

El don de lengua no es para el beneficio de la congregación, sino para beneficio del que habla. El que habla en lengua no habla a los hombres; él puede hablar en lengua y no interpretar nada; su entendimiento queda sin fruto (no entiende nada de lo que dijo) pero él es edificado.


<sup>[FONT=&quot]2[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque el que habla en lengua no habla a los hombres, sino a Dios; pues nadie le entiende el mensaje, aunque por el Espíritu habla misterios.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 3[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Pero el que profetiza habla a los hombres para edificación, exhortación y consolación.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 4[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]El que habla en lengua, a sí mismo se edifica; pero el que profetiza, edifica a la iglesia.[/FONT]


<hr align="left" width="33%" size="1"> <sup><sup>[FONT=&quot][1][/FONT]</sup></sup>Aland, B., Aland, K., Black, M., Martini, C. M., Metzger, B. M., & Wikgren, A. 1993, c1979. The Greek New Testament (4th ed.) (464). United Bible Societies: Federal Republic of Germany

<sup><sup>[FONT=&quot][2][/FONT]</sup></sup>Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. 2000. A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature. "Based on Walter Bauer's Griechisch-deutsches Wr[FONT=&quot]̲[/FONT]terbuch zu den Schriften des Neuen Testaments und der frhchristlichen [sic] Literatur, sixth edition, ed. Kurt Aland and Barbara Aland, with Viktor Reichmann and on previous English editions by W.F. Arndt, F.W. Gingrich, and F.W. Danker." (3rd ed.) (244). University of Chicago Press: Chicago
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?



Luis Alberto42
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios?



Luis Alberto42


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Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

[FONT=&quot]Ah bueno, muy bien, estas aprendiendo, ahora faltan las otras dos personas.[/FONT]




1Co 14:39 Por tanto, hermanos míos, anhelen el profetizar, y no prohíban hablar en lenguas.


¿Cómo podemos prohibír que el Espíritu Santo derrame y manifieste uno de Sus dones?

¿Acaso hay algo que le podamos prohibír al Espíritu Santo de Dios? *(Al Espíritu Santo DE Dios. No cambiar a "la tercera persona divina de Dios")....




A ver señores que tartamudean en lenguas extrañas.... (RABA SAMA RRANDA LA MARRANDA RRAMA QUÍA)


¿Cómo le podemos PROHIBIR a Dios que derrame Sus Dones Espirituales?



¿??????


Luis Alberto42









Luis Alberto42


 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

El grave problema de los carismaticos y pentecostales es que todos cacarean y ninguno entiende el cacareo, y lo mas grave, no hay quien interprete sus cacareos...

No que (suponiendo que el "don de lenguas" que ellos defienden sea cierto y vigente) tiene que haber un interprete en la iglesia y solamente hablar dos o tres...???

Pero eso no es lo que sucede en vuestras congregaciones, pues el cacareo es general (casi siempre supera el 60% de los reunidos) y hasta los ni~os se unen a la bulla cacareando al unisono. Hace unos doce a~os atras fui a una "convencion" en Orlando, donde la oradora ("predicadora") era una de estas famosas que tiene hasta un avion particular que la lleva por todo EU en su "evangelica" "mision" y al finalizar el "show" estaban vendiendo varios CD al salir del precinto, me llamo mucho la atencion uno que se titulaba: "Como aprender a hablar en lenguas"...

O sea, que hasta "maestros" tienen del cacareo...

Bien dijo el profeta Joel: En otras lenguas hablare y ni aun asi entendera mi pueblo...

Salud!
 
El juguete de los niños en Cristo.

El juguete de los niños en Cristo.

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mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; color:black; mso-ansi-language:ES; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Los dones son de dos clases:[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]1. - primero, los que sirven para despertar almas, y para reunir la Iglesia; y,[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]2. - en segundo lugar, los que son señales para el mundo, señales de la presencia de Dios en la Persona del Espíritu en la Iglesia.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]La Epístola a los Efesios nos habla sólo de los primeros; la Epístola a los Corintios habla de ambos.
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[FONT=&quot]La Palabra de Dios misma hace las distinciones arriba mencionadas, cuando dice que las lenguas son una señal para los incrédulos, y que las profecías son para creyentes (1a. Corintios 14:22).
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[FONT=&quot]Esta distinción es importante, debido a que es imposible que falle algo que es necesario para la conversión de almas, y que es para la edificación de los santos; mientras que es suficientemente fácil concebir que Dios habría de retirar aquello que era un ornamento para la Iglesia, y una muestra de su aceptación, cuando la Iglesia es infiel, y cuando, en lugar de honrar a Dios, ella ha contristado al Espíritu.
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[FONT=&quot]No obstante, este testimonio externo permaneció, según la sabiduría de Dios, en la Iglesia, entre tanto ello fue necesario, para confirmar la predicación de las verdades del evangelio.
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[FONT=&quot]J.N. Darby[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Hesed1 se identifica plenamente con esta afirmación sustentada por la s Escrituras, de nuestro Hermano ya con el Señor. Pués si se honrara verdaderamente al Señor, algunos grupos no estaría entreteniendo a los oyentes, con este juego de palabras, muchas veces aprovechadas por los espíritus para promover insultos contra el Creador en idiomas desconocidos. [/FONT]
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

Armando Hoyos;1102781]El grave problema de los carismaticos y pentecostales es que todos cacarean y ninguno entiende el cacareo, y lo mas grave, no hay quien interprete sus cacareos...

No que (suponiendo que el "don de lenguas" que ellos defienden sea cierto y vigente) tiene que haber un interprete en la iglesia y solamente hablar dos o tres...???


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mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:50%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> A.H, es que el que habla el don de lengua, no entiende lo que dice, pero aun así, habla misterio, y se edifica a él mismo.

<sup>[FONT=&quot]13[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Por lo cual, el que habla en lengua extraña, pida en oración poder interpretarla.<sup>[FONT=&quot] 14[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque si yo oro en lengua desconocida, mi espíritu ora, pero mi entendimiento queda sin fruto.[/FONT][/FONT]

<sup>[FONT=&quot]4</sup>[FONT=&quot]El que habla en lengua, a sí mismo se edifica; pero el que profetiza, edifica a la iglesia.[/FONT][/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot]2</sup>[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Porque el que habla en lengua no habla a los hombres, sino a Dios; pues nadie le entiende, aunque por el Espíritu habla misterios.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Entérate de una vez, el don de lengua estará vigente hasta que llegue lo perfecto:[/FONT]
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<sup>[FONT=&quot]8[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]El amor nunca deja de ser; pero las profecías se acabarán, y cesarán las lenguas, y la ciencia acabará.[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 9[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]Porque en parte conocemos, y en parte profetizamos;[/FONT]<sup>[FONT=&quot] 10[/FONT]</sup>[FONT=&quot]mas cuando venga lo perfecto, entonces lo que es en parte se acabará.[/FONT] 1Cor.13[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 
Re: El don de hablar en lenguas.

las golosolalia o el hablar en lenguas, es tener la capacidad de hablar lenguas angelicales, hablar un idioma es muy distinto del tipico cantinfleo pentecostal donde se repiten unas cuantas silabas una y otra vez, asi que la mayoria de los que pretenden tener el don, proablemente estan enganados de que lo tienen